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blownaltered 07-11-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39973)
Some times I do. And I'm sure there are 5.0's out there that will crush me. But how many NA 5.0's that can do that? I mean they would have to have boost and even then if they are within 75 rwhp of me I don't see why I couldn't beat them or hang with them for a 30-120 race.

lmao, I also agree that you should make the 300 more or higher by the pill rating. I've ran nitrous before but I just had bad luck with it. Well I kept going bigger and didn't get enough fuel and boom bitch but that was my fault. Personally I like your build its different, but since your car is faster than mine :yourself:

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 39975)
It doesn't matter what I think, as long as you are happy with it is what matters. It's just my opinion.



As I said, it's relative to what each individual thinks is fast or what they want. It's my opinion from being exposed around other friends, I don't think a 600-800rw car that weighs more than 3400lbs is "fast". It's a fun, quick street car certainly but not "fast". It's enough to win most of your races while cruising around town running into random people, but if you go to car meets with other car people are to race, chances are at 600-800rw you're not the fastest car at the meet.

We're spoiled these days. Years ago my 93 540rw Cobra was a fast car when most foxes were bolt-on cars running low 13's- mid 12's. Blower cars weren't all that common. Now, hell, if you aren't making at least 1000rw you aren't even competitive with all the street monsters running around the DFW area. lol.

It's all relative bro. Don't take it personally.

How often do you run into those street monsters on the road? Pretty much never unless its at a car meet like you said. So when my car is all said and done I'm sure just crusing around I won't have any problems beating people. But I'm sure ill get caught off guard and find one of these street monsters as you put it and just crush me. Which is fine by me.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 39980)
lmao, I also agree that you should make the 300 more or higher by the pill rating. I've ran nitrous before but I just had bad luck with it. Well I kept going bigger and didn't get enough fuel and boom bitch but that was my fault. Personally I like your build its different, but since your car is faster than mine :yourself:

Thanks and that's what I was going for this whole time. Is something different then SC or turbos. But apparently it's not good enough to some people.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 39977)
Sounds like you don't know much about Nitrous to me.

I would say Steve probably doesn't either lol.



who cares if they are NA or boosted or sprayed? Doesn't matter to me, more stipulations it sounds like

And obviously I don't care either. Example me racing a SC 3v yesterday.

Junkie 07-11-2013 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39983)
And obviously I don't care either. Example me racing a SC 3v yesterday.

I'll run you in my NA car :dogpile:

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 39984)
I'll run you in my NA car :dogpile:

I'm sure you would.

Junkie 07-11-2013 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39985)
I'm sure you would.

Do you always have such a horrible attitude?

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 39986)
Do you always have such a horrible attitude?

How do you assume that from my comment you quoted?

brtnstrns 07-11-2013 01:35 PM

So about that get together...http://www.moddedmustangs.com/forums...hidinghere.gif

Junkie 07-11-2013 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39987)
How do you assume that from my comment you quoted?

Because almost all the posts I've seen you make are either attention seeking, patting your own back or being a cry baby.

Hence me thinking you've got a bad attitude. Its not terribly complicated. :fuckyea:

Grandpa 07-11-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39962)
Have you ever owned a nitrous car? If so have you ever owned a direct port system on the car. Direct port works a lot different the single nozzle or plate systems.

Yes. It was a plated coupe, carb'd car, stripped down to nothing. Ran into the 9's at the track, but felt like you were going to die if you tried to turn too fast on the street on front runners, no sway bar etc. Of course, we're talking the mid 90's too. lol.

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 39964)
i picked up 195 rwhp with a "150" shot :)

just sayin.

Oh yeah, try that with a smaller displacement 4v car rather than 40+ more cubes pushrod motor. lol.
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39965)
I never said my shit is a new discovering. But my is unique in its class. Like I said I'm not competing against people that puts 50k plus into their cars. I wanted to be different then the rest of what people are doing to their coyotes. Boost it and that's it. But I guess when you're the odd man out you will be hated and have haters.

It is unique, I've given you that several times. I've said your car is cool as the other side of the pillow. You aren't hated on. Your smack talk and hypothetical bench racing is what got all this going. You should just stick what you know for sure - 508-525 whatever you want to call it and realize racing is run what you bring. Not pick your races by mod for mod crap. That's silly.

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39967)
Well Steve won't argue with you cause you have a super duper fast car.

LOL, so not true.

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 39969)
LOL! my car is FAR from fast...

And steve argues with me all the time.. Because he's my Boy.. and it's fun:)

Yeahhh buddddddddy! :big_banana_Dance:

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 39970)
Good.. because if either of us wanted the "Fastest car" in dallas.. we BOTH picked the wrong platform lol

I think you're doing all right. Certainly not in much risk of losing races at random meets. Now, TI or DR gtg, might be a lil different. You still have the Dirty Bird to contend with! lmao.

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39971)
Man stop playing my car isn't fast stuff. It is a fucking beast. And I like Steve and known him for years but for some reason he likes to argue about something he has no clue about which in this case nitrous. It gets annoying after we go back and forth about it.

You're the one taking it as an argument. It's a discussion as far as I'm concerned. I gave my opinion on it, you wanted to argue my opinion is wrong.

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 39972)
Since you don't have a tune for your nitrous there are bunch of new 5.0s that will blow your doors off. Once you get your nitrous tune you will be faster than most but till then you are bench racing.

Dude you do stroke your ego a lot. Do you jerk off looking into the mirror talking about how awesome you are?

Exactly.

LMAO@ the 2nd part. You sick in the head, Donnie!

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39973)
Some times I do. And I'm sure there are 5.0's out there that will crush me. But how many NA 5.0's that can do that? I mean they would have to have boost and even then if they are within 75 rwhp of me I don't see why I couldn't beat them or hang with them for a 30-120 race.

You'll beat most 5.0's around on motor unless they are boosted. Hell, you might even beat a few boosted ones. You and Merlin would be a good race your motor to his blower.

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 39976)
He didn't tell me what he made frankly I don't care it was fun and I had him till the big ass turbo kicked in

LOL, I tried to tell you to go from a lower roll. I called that one.

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39978)
You should had raced him from a dig to 100 and you would had won.

Yup. Neon's aint shit from a dig or low roll. But they can shit and get on the big end with the turbo upgrades. Nick got hustled, no biggie. That's street racing. At least he had the balls to give it a shot rather than bench race it to death first to know if it was worthy of his gas or not! lmao.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 39989)
Because almost all the posts I've seen you make are either attention seeking, patting your own back or being a cry baby.

Hence me thinking you've got a bad attitude. Its not terribly complicated. :fuckyea:

Yup you're right again. :mf_pcwhack:

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 39990)
Yes. It was a plated coupe, carb'd car, stripped down to nothing. Ran into the 9's at the track, but felt like you were going to die if you tried to turn too fast on the street on front runners, no sway bar etc. Of course, we're talking the mid 90's too. lol.



Oh yeah, try that with a smaller displacement 4v car rather than 40+ more cubes pushrod motor. lol.


It is unique, I've given you that several times. I've said your car is cool as the other side of the pillow. You aren't hated on. Your smack talk and hypothetical bench racing is what got all this going. You should just stick what you know for sure - 508-525 whatever you want to call it and realize racing is run what you bring. Not pick your races by mod for mod crap. That's silly.



LOL, so not true.



Yeahhh buddddddddy! :big_banana_Dance:



I think you're doing all right. Certainly not in much risk of losing races at random meets. Now, TI or DR gtg, might be a lil different. You still have the Dirty Bird to contend with! lmao.



You're the one taking it as an argument. It's a discussion as far as I'm concerned. I gave my opinion on it, you wanted to argue my opinion is wrong.



Exactly.

LMAO@ the 2nd part. You sick in the head, Donnie!



You'll beat most 5.0's around on motor unless they are boosted. Hell, you might even beat a few boosted ones. You and Merlin would be a good race your motor to his blower.



LOL, I tried to tell you to go from a lower roll. I called that one.



Yup. Neon's aint shit from a dig or low roll. But they can shit and get on the big end with the turbo upgrades. Nick got hustled, no biggie. That's street racing. At least he had the balls to give it a shot rather than bench race it to death first to know if it was worthy of his gas or not! lmao.


Got nuts for racing but look like a fool for racing someone with a lot more power. Ahhhhh now I get y'all.

White_lightning 07-11-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 39975)
We're spoiled these days. Years ago my 93 540rw Cobra was a fast car when most foxes were bolt-on cars running low 13's- mid 12's. Blower cars weren't all that common. Now, hell, if you aren't making at least 1000rw you aren't even competitive with all the street monsters running around the DFW area. lol.

It's all relative bro. Don't take it personally.

my supra was Draggin bitches when it only made ~450 rwhp...
the fact that i have a 1000 hp car and im not even CLOSE to the top of the food chain in DFW is realy a sign.. all the guys who think my car is some uber street monster prove that they are used to playing in the sand box...

Grandpa 07-11-2013 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 39991)
Yup you're right again. :mf_pcwhack:

LMAO, you're just a ray of sunshine there, Jeff.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 39993)
my supra was Draggin bitches when it only made ~450 rwhp...
the fact that i have a 1000 hp car and im not even CLOSE to the top of the food chain in DFW is realy a sign.. all the guys who think my car is some uber street monster prove that they are used to playing in the sand box...

Yeah 1100-1300 rwhp or whatever your car makes isn't a street monster. Stop being so damn humble about. Sure you're not on top of the food chain but damn man you have a insane vette that all of us would love to own.

Bearded Banger 07-11-2013 01:49 PM

I will only race Nic ever.

Jeff's build is cool, but IMO the bang for the buck isn't there. Cost too much to pick up so little.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearded Banger (Post 39999)
I will only race Nic ever.

Jeff's build is cool, but IMO the bang for the buck isn't there. Cost too much to pick up so little.

Ok Gary think about it. A D1 pro charger car with a built engine and fuel system is probably around 12-15k and it will make 700 rwhp maybe a little more. I have the exact same money and ill be at 800 rwhp maybe a little more. So do you really think it cost too much for a little pick up?

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 01:56 PM

And without the built engine part, the direct port nitrous kit, stand alone fuel cell. I spent maybe 5-6k on parts and labor and I picked up 140 rwhp from when I'm bone stock NA. That's pretty good if you ask me.

White_lightning 07-11-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40000)
Ok Gary think about it. A D1 pro charger car with a built engine and fuel system is probably around 12-15k and it will make 700 rwhp maybe a little more. I have the exact same money and ill be at 800 rwhp maybe a little more. So do you really think it cost too much for a little pick up?

the difference is after a few hits and you run out of bottle.. your car is now a 500 rwhp car and the D1 guy still has 700 rwhp .. and built motor 700 rwhp????? jesus that pathetic.. the old push rod ls3 cars are making 800 rwhp on Stock motors with an underspun D1.

Grandpa 07-11-2013 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40000)
Ok Gary think about it. A D1 pro charger car with a built engine and fuel system is probably around 12-15k and it will make 700 rwhp maybe a little more. I have the exact same money and ill be at 800 rwhp maybe a little more. So do you really think it cost too much for a little pick up?

Dave made more than 700 on the stock motor with the blower. It also takes a Mustang an additional 150rw or more to make up for the weight/aero difference. If you start going out to pick fights with blown Vettes you're going to get a rude awakening. lol.

When you get tuned for juice, you should race Vic. Very comparable cars mod for mod.

Bearded Banger 07-11-2013 02:00 PM

It's just my opinion. And yes I would never pay that much to have a juiced car. Not my style. Your money, your car do whatever you want. I still like it and want a ride. I would never build that.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 40003)
the difference is after a few hits and you run out of bottle.. your car is now a 500 rwhp car and the D1 guy still has 700 rwhp .. and built motor 700 rwhp????? jesus that pathetic.. the old push rod ls3 cars are making 800 rwhp on Stock motors with an underspun D1.

I was just giving an example of 5.0'a with D1 are making avg. And come on man you are comparing a bigger engine with a little 302. TS just did a boss with a D1 with 15 psi and exhaust and made 770 rwhp.

Grandpa 07-11-2013 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearded Banger (Post 40005)
It's just my opinion. And yes I would never pay that much to have a juiced car. Not my style. Your money, your car do whatever you want. I still like it and want a ride. I would never build that.

Agreed x100

In my opinion, the only way juice should be used on a street car is in addition to boost. Cuz like Dave said, when the bottle runs out, it's still a 500rw NA car. Boost is always there.

Now, boost+juice in a street car = bad mofo! (Like Will's V!)

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearded Banger (Post 40005)
It's just my opinion. And yes I would never pay that much to have a juiced car. Not my style. Your money, your car do whatever you want. I still like it and want a ride. I would never build that.

That's why I want to be different. I know not too many people would do this. Everyone wants to go SC, turbo, beeeeeeeewwwwsssstytttt!!!!!!!! It's ghey

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 40004)
Dave made more than 700 on the stock motor with the blower. It also takes a Mustang an additional 150rw or more to make up for the weight/aero difference. If you start going out to pick fights with blown Vettes you're going to get a rude awakening. lol.

When you get tuned for juice, you should race Vic. Very comparable cars mod for mod.

I don't think David will make the power you think he will make. I hope I'm wrong and he makes the power but I doubt it. Hmm race Vic. Race against a 900 rwhp car that is lighter. Ummmmm yea about that.

Grandpa 07-11-2013 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40011)
I don't think David will make the power you think he will make. I hope I'm wrong and he makes the power but I doubt it. Hmm race Vic. Race against a 900 rwhp car that is lighter. Ummmmm yea about that.

Huh? I didn't say anything about David. Last I heard he was going back to a stock type blower set up. With the built motor and D1 he could still make good power that will be a fun street car. I'm sure at this point he doesn't care and would just like to have his car back to drive rather than making payments on a car he doesn't get to enjoy at all.

Grandpa 07-11-2013 02:08 PM

Ok, I'm out for a bit. I've got to get some studying done. You fuckers have distracted me for way too long. hahah.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:08 PM

And what does it matter when I run out of juice if my car is 500 hp again. If I win the race that's all it matters, right? I just tell the guy to turn up his booooost next time.

White_lightning 07-11-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40007)
I was just giving an example of 5.0'a with D1 are making avg. And come on man you are comparing a bigger engine with a little 302. TS just did a boss with a D1 with 15 psi and exhaust and made 770 rwhp.

my car made 760 with timing turned all the way down with the D1 and 13# peak... so clearly the cars can make power... was the boss running a stock motor? if so.. sounds like doing a Blower is the way to go.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 40012)
Huh? I didn't say anything about David. Last I heard he was going back to a stock type blower set up. With the built motor and D1 he could still make good power that will be a fun street car. I'm sure at this point he doesn't care and would just like to have his car back to drive rather than making payments on a car he doesn't get to enjoy at all.

Gawd damnit too many Dave's and David's.

Zeek 07-11-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40011)
I don't think David will make the power you think he will make. I hope I'm wrong and he makes the power but I doubt it. Hmm race Vic. Race against a 900 rwhp car that is lighter. Ummmmm yea about that.

Vic doesn't make 900 lol. He's low 800s like 820

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 40016)
my car made 760 with timing turned all the way down with the D1 and 13# peak... so clearly the cars can make power... was the boss running a stock motor? if so.. sounds like doing a Blower is the way to go.

Yes stock motor but a boss is a built stock motor. A stock 5.0 GT won't handle that power.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 40018)
Vic doesn't make 900 lol. He's low 800s like 820

I was told different so my bad.

White_lightning 07-11-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 40018)
Vic doesn't make 900 lol. He's low 800s like 820

more like 800 FLAT.. that mother fucker can just DRIVE

White_lightning 07-11-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40020)
I was told different so my bad.

i have seen every dyno number that car has mad... who ever told you he made 900 rwhp is dumb.

BLK2012GT 07-11-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 40023)
more like 800 FLAT.. that mother fucker can just DRIVE

So I heard on the driving part.

Junkie 07-11-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 40023)
more like 800 FLAT.. that mother fucker can just DRIVE

Exactly.

IMO for a street car I prefer nitrous or Turbos. Several different tiers of people you can race.

My blue V for example. 700rw on boost, 900+ on spray. Really fun car against the local Vettes that I ran. That was stock motor junk

White_lightning 07-11-2013 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 40026)
Exactly.

IMO for a street car I prefer nitrous or Turbos. Several different tiers of people you can race.

My blue V for example. 700rw on boost, 900+ on spray. Really fun car against the local Vettes that I ran. That was stock motor junk

The difference is your V wasnt a slouch off bottle.. it was FAST on bottle and a LOT faster on spray.

Junkie 07-11-2013 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by White_lightning (Post 40028)
The difference is your V wasnt a slouch off bottle.. it was FAST on bottle and a LOT faster on spray.

My V on boost was a little faster then a nice H/C/I Vette. Big weight difference means I have to make way more power :(


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