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Yagermeister 08-19-2013 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com (Post 45760)
To say his car should run 130+ is also uneducated.....

I have a Honda that hangs around our shop that makes 498fwhp... It traps 140mph in the 1/4 mile..... How do you figure that?

Well I will tell you, power to weight is everything in drag racing. Jeff claims his car weighs over 3850 with out him in the car. That would make it over 4000lb with him in the car going down the track. Weight will kill mph.....

My fox body back in the day made 400rwhp (1996) weighed 3196 with me in it and traped 128.8mph.

You have to quit taking the times the fast guys on the Internet are runing and thinking that a little higher dyno number should make a heavy car not set up to track with a new driver should run with the educated and prepared racer. Raw power will not over come weight and set up
I'm curious as to what mph you think True Streets high dollar 525+HP built motor will get seeing that with tune and tires and an xpipe can get you 117-119mph in the exact same model of a mustang with the same weight (Jeff's car does not weigh what he thinks).

Dark Pony 08-19-2013 06:34 AM
Whoa...mind blown.

03MachMe 08-19-2013 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 45835)
John (GunsUp) was there but won't race at the track, only the street.
Exactly what the problem is with this top ten.

All this arguing is getting very old very quickly. This site was fun when people wouldn't take shit so personal. Jeff your going to catch some shit because you talked shit, but a lot of you are over doing it. We know Jeff SHOULD BE running a lot faster times, give him some time to figure out his car. And Jeff we know you need better tires But you can also do a lot better with those. You should be able to cut a 1.7 at least even with those tires just takes some time. Don't take shit so personal when you jab back and it keeps going back and forth it gets really old to read and then everyone else jumps in. This thread is about the call out list not reasons Jeff didn't run well at the track. Just my 02¢

46Tbird 08-19-2013 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 45833)
It's my understanding #10 was not there and a lot of people wanting to get on the list couldn't do so. I know Dark Pony was trying to set up some races to move up the list but I don't know what came of it.
So one person not showing up causes a pile-up? Seems like that person forfeited and dropped a place, everyone else should continue calling out and racing. I guess that's why Street Outlaws has a big chief, this type of issue isn't gonna work itself out by committee.

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45675)
Not sensitive at all. I'm not on great tires and haven't been to the track in years. I would had been very happy to hit 11's my first time back in over a decade. But it didn't happen oh well. But Steve won't bet me cause we are "friends" yet he gives me a lot of shit when usually friends don't do that. At least not as much as he does. I guess since he got so much shit at Dfwmustangs he thinks he can do that here. I think I'm going to call Steve, Eric.
So much comic gold!

TrueStreetMotorSports.com 08-19-2013 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 45888)
I'm curious as to what mph you think True Streets high dollar 525+HP built motor will get seeing that with tune and tires and an xpipe can get you 117-119mph in the exact same model of a mustang with the same weight (Jeff's car does not weigh what he thinks).
Jeff claims he weigh it at 3878lb and that is not with Jeff in it. So if this is the case and Jeff gets in since the car will not drive it's self it is over 4000lb.

Now are you saying your friend is telling a lie? Jeff does a lot on the Internet I would chose to do differently but to say is flat out lying is pretty serious.

TrueStreetMotorSports.com 08-19-2013 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 45891)
Exactly what the problem is with this top ten.

All this arguing is getting very old very quickly. This site was fun when people wouldn't take shit so personal. Jeff your going to catch some shit because you talked shit, but a lot of you are over doing it. We know Jeff SHOULD BE running a lot faster times, give him some time to figure out his car. And Jeff we know you need better tires But you can also do a lot better with those. You should be able to cut a 1.7 at least even with those tires just takes some time. Don't take shit so personal when you jab back and it keeps going back and forth it gets really old to read and then everyone else jumps in. This thread is about the call out list not reasons Jeff didn't run well at the track. Just my 02¢
I agree, I believe Jeff poked a lot if people and now everyone is loving him not doing good job driving the car. But I can tell you with his wife being as pregnant as she is I can image it's not good time for him to be arguing and getting mad over things as silly as him not driving his car good at the track.

It's getting old on both sides for sure

Junkie 08-19-2013 10:50 AM
Talk a bunch of shit, don't back it up, get called out....seems pretty simple to me. Happens to the best of us.

kdanner 08-19-2013 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com (Post 45905)
Jeff claims he weigh it at 3878lb and that is not with Jeff in it. So if this is the case and Jeff gets in since the car will not drive it's self it is over 4000lb.

Now are you saying your friend is telling a lie? Jeff does a lot on the Internet I would chose to do differently but to say is flat out lying is pretty serious.
Base GTs weigh less than 3600 untouched, that's a fact. I've had a few of them on my own scales. You can say telling a lie, whatever else if you want. I'd just focus on there is absolutely no way that car weighs anywhere near what he claims unless he has added a whole lot of weight with useless crap like stereo shit.

Phuck Phace 08-19-2013 10:59 AM
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6...ps1c74d92d.jpg

STROKD 08-19-2013 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45911)
I'd just focus on there is absolutely no way that car weighs anywhere near what he claims unless he has added a whole lot of weight with useless crap like stereo shit.
Hey! Wtf is wrong with stereo shit?

46Tbird 08-19-2013 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45911)
Base GTs weigh less than 3600 untouched, that's a fact. I've had a few of them on my own scales. You can say telling a lie, whatever else if you want. I'd just focus on there is absolutely no way that car weighs anywhere near what he claims unless he has added a whole lot of weight with useless crap like stereo shit.
Mine weighed right at 3600 on the 20s without me and around a half tank of gas. There's no way Jeff's car is anywhere near 3800 unless he was moving around some gym equipment. Not saying he's lying, it's just that the scales he went to must have been off. Did he not weigh it down at Ennis? All I heard was everyone going on and on about their weight since they had the scales opened up.

Grandpa 08-19-2013 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com (Post 45907)
I agree, I believe Jeff poked a lot if people and now everyone is loving him not doing good job driving the car. But I can tell you with his wife being as pregnant as she is I can image it's not good time for him to be arguing and getting mad over things as silly as him not driving his car good at the track.

It's getting old on both sides for sure
There is no question about that, not only did he "poke" a lot of people, but he beat the subject to death and took the title of king of 5.0s before his car was even finished. There is NO WAY to make a claim like that then fail to back it up and not expect to get shit back for it. That's just racing, you know this.

I do agree, it's done and over with now. Jeff showed his ass, we've had some laughs over it now we should come together to have fun and help Jeff out. The problem is, as usual he's not reacting well to the ribbing he is getting lashing out attacking people personally. If he'd just laugh it off and get back to racing I have no doubt everyone would support him.

I wish Jeff luck. Every new combo needs to be dialed in. Just expecting to jump in to run a number isn't going to happen. It takes time and practice and I'm sure Jeff will get it done in time.

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 45908)
Talk a bunch of shit, don't back it up, get called out....seems pretty simple to me. Happens to the best of us.
It's always been that way, always will be. Its a testosterone driven sport. lol

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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45911)
Base GTs weigh less than 3600 untouched, that's a fact. I've had a few of them on my own scales. You can say telling a lie, whatever else if you want. I'd just focus on there is absolutely no way that car weighs anywhere near what he claims unless he has added a whole lot of weight with useless crap like stereo shit.
I'll give Jeff the benefit of the doubt here. If his car isn't 4000lbs with him in it, it's going to be very close to it because he is a big boy. He is like 6'4 280lbs.

KungFuHamster 08-19-2013 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45911)
Base GTs weigh less than 3600 untouched, that's a fact. I've had a few of them on my own scales. You can say telling a lie, whatever else if you want. I'd just focus on there is absolutely no way that car weighs anywhere near what he claims unless he has added a whole lot of weight with useless crap like stereo shit.
the scale at Crandall had my car at 3,895 lbs.

The scale at Ennis saturday had it closer to 3,750 lbs.

That's a big difference Which one's right? The carseat was in the car both times.


Also, since this is the callout list, why don't the PA guys post their times and the N/A guys post up their times (edit) from Saturday night(edit) and go from there. I promise, NOBODY has a faster 13 sec timeslip than me :)

kdanner 08-19-2013 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 45921)
because he is a big boy. He is like 6'4 280lbs.
Almost exactly my size. I'll stick with my prior statements.

kdanner 08-19-2013 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster (Post 45922)
the scale at Crandall had my car at 3,895 lbs.

The scale at Ennis saturday had it closer to 3,750 lbs.

That's a big difference Which one's right? The carseat was in the car both times.
I don't know, what's the car, how is it equipped, non stock items, how much do you weigh?

Phuck Phace 08-19-2013 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster (Post 45922)
Also, since this is the callout list, why don't the PA guys post their times and the N/A guys post up their times and go from there....
Should have done this before making the list.

KungFuHamster 08-19-2013 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45925)
I don't know, what's the car, how is it equipped, non stock items, how much do you weigh?
2011 GT. Fully equipped (leather/power seat) standard shift, 19 in rims/tires all the way around.

I race the car in full street trim. I leave all the crap (includding car seat) in the car.

My car was the grabber blue with black rims out there Saturday night.

46Tbird 08-19-2013 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Phuck Phace (Post 45926)
Should have done this before making the list.
The world's biggest DUH to that. Initial ranking should have been based on timeslips only - not rumor or theory or buddy system. If you'd never gotten a timeslip, then you wouldn't have been ranked. Seems pretty simple to me, but the board sure has gotten a lot of traffic over the drama. :Angry:

blownaltered 08-19-2013 11:21 AM
We need a fast fox body list that way I can be on a list. I hardly ever race so I sound like all the other lists.

Courtesy Flush 08-19-2013 11:26 AM
So did anyone move rank Saturday evening?

KungFuHamster 08-19-2013 11:32 AM
I think Saturday should serve as a baseline for the list(s). Then when (if) anyone races someone on said list on the street, then it's whoever finishes first. Naturally if they agree to run at the track, I would suggest an actual grudge race where all we see is a win light, because that's all that matters anyways.

I say the Nitrous guys should make the choice to either run with or without the squeeze and choose a list. Or if yall prefer they can dual hat and get on both since they have that option.

Grandpa 08-19-2013 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush (Post 45932)
So did anyone move rank Saturday evening?
Solid question. Let's get back on topic here. :)

Yagermeister 08-19-2013 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com (Post 45905)
Jeff claims he weigh it at 3878lb and that is not with Jeff in it. So if this is the case and Jeff gets in since the car will not drive it's self it is over 4000lb.

Now are you saying your friend is telling a lie? Jeff does a lot on the Internet I would chose to do differently but to say is flat out lying is pretty serious.
Not saying my friend is lying but that he used a very inaccurate scale ;)

Yagermeister 08-19-2013 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 45921)
There is no question about that, not only did he "poke" a lot of people, but he beat the subject to death and took the title of king of 5.0s before his car was even finished. There is NO WAY to make a claim like that then fail to back it up and not expect to get shit back for it. That's just racing, you know this.

I do agree, it's done and over with now. Jeff showed his ass, we've had some laughs over it now we should come together to have fun and help Jeff out. The problem is, as usual he's not reacting well to the ribbing he is getting lashing out attacking people personally. If he'd just laugh it off and get back to racing I have no doubt everyone would support him.

I wish Jeff luck. Every new combo needs to be dialed in. Just expecting to jump in to run a number isn't going to happen. It takes time and practice and I'm sure Jeff will get it done in time.



It's always been that way, always will be. Its a testosterone driven sport. lol



I'll give Jeff the benefit of the doubt here. If his car isn't 4000lbs with him in it, it's going to be very close to it because he is a big boy. He is like 6'4 280lbs.
Clint drove his car so remove 130 lbs right there :D

Yagermeister 08-19-2013 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster (Post 45922)
the scale at Crandall had my car at 3,895 lbs.

The scale at Ennis saturday had it closer to 3,750 lbs.

That's a big difference Which one's right? The carseat was in the car both times.


Also, since this is the callout list, why don't the PA guys post their times and the N/A guys post up their times (edit) from Saturday night(edit) and go from there. I promise, NOBODY has a faster 13 sec timeslip than me :)
Gas is ~6lbs per gallon if I remember plus how much windshield washer fluid did you have? These amounts could sway your weight 60 or more lbs

Doug 08-19-2013 11:50 AM
This Saturday is a street warz event at Northstar. Its a bracket racing event but they also have open test n tune. Track prep is always good at denton. I went to the last street wars in july with a bunch of the carrollton guys just for the tnt. We all made several passes. I say everyone should go out this Saturday and compare times and race it out!

Yagermeister 08-19-2013 11:51 AM
Dale, Nicolas, and I will have a meeting of the minds to discuss the Callout List

blownaltered 08-19-2013 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 45940)
Clint drove his car so remove 130 lbs right there :D
That was also Clint's first time driving that car down the track so you can't really count that either. You kind of like doing this don't you :beatdeadhorse5:

Yagermeister 08-19-2013 12:04 PM
Blownaltered...you mean like Jeff saying he's faster than everyone even when he hadn't got his car back? :beers:

blownaltered 08-19-2013 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 45952)
Blownaltered...you mean like Jeff saying he's faster than everyone even when he hadn't got his car back? :beers:
Your getting close, not there yet but getting close. So you know how annoying he was, so the question is do you want to be like him.

BLK2012GT 08-19-2013 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 45952)
Blownaltered...you mean like Jeff saying he's faster than everyone even when he hadn't got his car back? :beers:
Race me on the streets find out if you're faster. I'm willing to back it up with money.

Junkie 08-19-2013 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45956)
Race me on the streets find out if you're faster. I'm willing to back it up with money.
street racing is bad...mmmmmmmmk

BLK2012GT 08-19-2013 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 45958)
street racing is bad...mmmmmmmmk
Mmmmmmmmmk

kdanner 08-19-2013 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster (Post 45927)
2011 GT. Fully equipped (leather/power seat) standard shift, 19 in rims/tires all the way around.

I race the car in full street trim. I leave all the crap (includding car seat) in the car.

My car was the grabber blue with black rims out there Saturday night.

Untouched premium with any driver bigger than a dwarf, I don't think can be under 3800.

GunsUp 08-19-2013 01:22 PM
I did not race at Ennis this wknd so I had until Friday to respond to my callouts. If y'all decide to reorganize the list based off of slip times I do not have a problem forfeiting my #10 spot as long as I can keep my sig pic

KungFuHamster 08-19-2013 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45973)
Untouched premium with any driver bigger than a dwarf, I don't think can be under 3800.
I've lost 15 lbs...but I still tip the scales at ~ 190.

Luke 08-19-2013 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by GunsUp (Post 45995)
I did not race at Ennis this wknd so I had until Friday to respond to my callouts. If y'all decide to reorganize the list based off of slip times I do not have a problem forfeiting my #10 spot as long as I can keep my sig pic
IN for rankings based on timeslips! Lol, my car sucks on the highway

BLK2012GT 08-19-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 46013)
IN for rankings based on timeslips! Lol, my car sucks on the highway
They need to make up their minds if this so call top ten is based on timeslips or just racing period. I know they got this idea from street outlaws and if they are basing it off of that, then I don't see the point of time slips.

03MachMe 08-19-2013 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 46013)
IN for rankings based on timeslips! Lol, my car sucks on the highway
Mine doesn't run on the hwy so me too

kdanner 08-19-2013 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster (Post 45999)
I've lost 15 lbs...but I still tip the scales at ~ 190.
So you, a car seat, and a helmet is ~210-215 lbs. Not buying the 3750 number from the Ennis scale. A base GT on 19" but otherwise unmodified wouldn't make that number. Sounds like the Crandall number is closer to me.


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