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merlinmol 08-10-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by El_Tortuga (Post 44023)
Keeping the engine bone stock to maintain full warranty. It will get tracked, and this is Texas so better to pay the piper now than risk any oil / heat issue at the track.

As an engineer myself, I'd be fairly certain a cost conscious company like Ford wouldn't call out such a high spec oil unless they truly saw the need. If it is only truly required for certain scenarios then so be it. So we know that the ECU
will dial back the engine if oil temp gets too high. What I don't know is if they move set point up in the track pack calibration to take advantage of the better heat resistance of the heavier full synthetic. I have been told that the regular GT (non BOSS) guys tend to run into heat limits at the track.

Paid good coin and special ordered to get the track pack, won't cheap out now.

I can't blame you there, however, mine is modified. I need a better oil for racing, RP HPS is for modified street/race, and XPR is race, I don't race enough to justify the cost of running XPR all the time. However, those oils all have performance additives which will typically void warranty. Pretty sure I did that adding a supercharger and a custom tune.... :drool2:

re-rx7 08-10-2013 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by merlinmol (Post 44041)
I can't blame you there, however, mine is modified. I need a better oil for racing, RP HPS is for modified street/race, and XPR is race, I don't race enough to justify the cost of running XPR all the time. However, those oils all have performance additives which will typically void warranty. Pretty sure I did that adding a supercharger and a custom tune.... :drool2:

The best racing oil is the cheapest. Ask Toby. Valvoline VR1

merlinmol 08-10-2013 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 44044)
The best racing oil is the cheapest. Ask Toby. Valvoline VR1


Hmm, I just read this, be curious if anyone has actually done true testing on it. Almost everyone I see that races uses Amsoil, or RP's race oils.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ht-it-was.html

re-rx7 08-10-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by merlinmol (Post 44049)
Hmm, I just read this, be curious if anyone has actually done true testing on it. Almost everyone I see that races uses Amsoil, or RP's race oils.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c3-t...ht-it-was.html

Jeez.

http://store.forcedperformance.net/m...otor%20Oil.pdf

merlinmol 08-10-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 44056)

I did more searching and found other stuff that gave different info. Some like the valvoline, others don't. Don't think we are going to find any articles that are spot on. This is the first mention I have ever seen that Valvoline VR1 is awesome, most people go Amsoil, or RP, and I have been happy so far.

Oxford14Stang 08-10-2013 08:03 PM

Base model 5.0 using 5W20 ....... FTW :signs6:

re-rx7 08-10-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 44106)
Base model 5.0 using 5W20 ....... FTW :signs6:

5w-20 pennzoil ultra here!

Dominic Toretto 08-12-2013 03:04 PM

So just so I understand this correctly. The exact same car/engine requires a completely different oil because it comes with better brakes, sway bars, and other handling upgrades?

-Alex

ochoblanco 08-12-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 44419)
So just so I understand this correctly. The exact same car/engine requires a completely different oil because it comes with better brakes, sway bars, and other handling upgrades?

-Alex

It's the idea that the car will be tracked similar to the boss: heavily. Or at least it was built to be tracked heavily. I don't track mine much so I use Amsoil 10.40 Sig Series

re-rx7 08-14-2013 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 44419)
So just so I understand this correctly. The exact same car/engine requires a completely different oil because it comes with better brakes, sway bars, and other handling upgrades?

-Alex

It's a precaution because track condition are more severe.

JDMLOL 08-14-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 44746)
It's a precaution because track condition are more severe.

Funny thing is, technically the warranty is void when you have an issue due to racing. Lol. Why should they care?

Dominic Toretto 08-15-2013 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 44746)
It's a precaution because track condition are more severe.

What about daily driving street conditions?

-Alex

BLK2012GT 08-15-2013 01:10 PM

Shit I use 20W50 amsoil.

Torsion 09-09-2013 11:51 PM

I got a little better pricing from the Frisco Ford dealer's parts department last time I bought 5w-50.

I'm track pack too, and I'm stickin' with Motorcraft.

Slowstang1_jgw 09-10-2013 10:59 AM

Oil Anlysis
 
For everday driving 5W20 is good, if you take it to the track/course or whatever a thicker wieght would be the choice.

If anyone wants a to take there oil anlysis to the next level let me know. On the weekend once a month (Drill for the USAFR) I can burn a JOAP of your oil sample.

We do this after every flight on the F-16 to give us info on the engine.


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