no clue honestly, i want something sturdy. im not buying everything at once either, im gonna slowly build the engine first so if i go over 5k, then thats fine. Im also working on the suspension in the mean time.

I just put a tko 600 in mine with a twin disc clutch. Since I make 500hp my t5 was living on borrowed time. Decided to sell the t5 before it blew up and I couldn't sell it.

Ill sell you my motor out of my race car for 12,500. Carb to oil pan, 640rwhp to the tires with a stick. 9.80 on the motor..... Lol it's ready to go, everything is 100% fresh

uhhhh yeah let me get an auto loan out asap.

Lol that's funny right there

this video was posted today. crazy coincidence? ever heard of blueprint engines? they have a 347.

392 crank hp from a 347 is pretty f'in sad.

Call this guy.

http://www.keithcraft.com/

yeah, those numbers were low, i was expecting 450. and thanks, ill look into it.

he has a dyno video of a 302 they just built that did 605 at the crank... thats about 510 rw. out of a pushrod 302... probably not in your 5k budget though.:hidesbehindsofa:

prolly not. but my main concern is a good starting point. so right now im deciding on a short block.

Dale - I just got my copy of the new 5.0 Mustang in the mail today and on the front cover is a four eye fox body and it's all about motor swaps this month! How weird is that? lol

haha i got mine too and read through all the builds. 347 stroker carb or efi is where im leaning. it can't be a coincidence.

My carb'd car did not like the cold weather at all, very tempermental until it warmed up. It was easy as hell to tune though and cheaper than EFI. On the nitrous plate it would carry the front wheels about a foot off the ground for the first few feet. It left HARD!

There are pros and cons to both EFI and carb'd setups. It's really what you can live with and afford.

Save me that copy would ya. I'm starting to do research on that for down the road. I might start buying parts here and there for the swap, so it's not such a hit all at once. Makes the wife happy when I spend it slower.

You're not doing a swap, just a shortblock build. A swap would be changing up your setup completely.

I know I still want to read it though. I am going to start buying pistons, rods, etc here before long.

I have a customer with A brand new boss block in the crate, $1600

:poker:

How much to stroke it.. Lol

Borat voice... Vedy NIIIICCCCEEEEE

you could build this motor for about $4500-$5000 as a 331,347,or a 363. The block and internals would be good for 1300fwhp.

If I was in your shoes I would build a bigger motor since you need everything and it will not cost more. Dart block 351 stroked to a 430-450 would a average set of heads would make 530+RWHP and a 100+ more RWTQ and not cost much or any more than to build a small 302 Based motor.

Since he is starting from scratch it is easy to go that route. Me I will stay 302 based since everything I have is setup for it and I would spend a fortune converting over.

Agreed!!!!! you have a set up to make 600+ with not much more than a short block. The Boss block stroked to a 331 would be a perfect combo for you to make good power and allow that blower to start being used:smoke2:

But he's not interested in racing... :happy175::hidesbehindsofa:

well i'm visiting the shop later, i'll talk to you guys about it some more!

Just because I want a block I don't have to worry about doesn't mean I want to race. It means I want safety.

:gayflag:

:upyours:

In all honesty Donnie, my dad built his shortblock to be the last one the car ever needed and so it wouldn't blow up when he got on it as well... He doesn't race it and never really goes over 80 in it.

He was tired of worrying about the rods coming out of the block everytime he got on it, (or lifting the heads and blowing gaskets) and was hooked on the power of the blower after it being slow for most of it's life.

I will probably eventually take it to the track once or twice just to see if I can get it down the track. The car Steve and I ran a long while back ran 9s, so if that's any indication of what the car will do, I should be able to get it in the high 10s with a stick. Id be pretty proud if it ran that good since the suspension is stiffer than hell and it weighs about 3900 lbs with me in it.

LMFAO, he hasn't SEEN the car in years let alone drive it!


Honestly, that car is THE perfect fox cruiser/weekend warrior I've ever seen with exception of the fucking gay wheels. It's a crime that there isn't a nice set of wheels on that car. lol

I would cruise the hell out of that car and it's a shame no one loves it enough to drive it. I'm planning on kneecapping Matt and his Dad for neglecting that car. In fact, Matt should be kicked in the balls for being a legendary Mustang killer. I hate him.

I like the Rs, always have, they look good on the car. Not my fault everyone played them out with ugly replicas.

The car doesn't move because it's not tuned. I have no reason to drive it because if I do race someone Ill probably break something. My dad doesn't race, doesn't matter if he hasn't driven it in a few years or not, he's not really into it. Last time he actually raced was at FFW Houston I think in 2004, and that was in his truck. He's never taken a pass in the C6, he just let's me do it because he doesn't want to be embarrassed. He doesn't st race because he's always paranoid.

So yea, as I said he didn't build the car up to race anyone, just to be fun to drive. All it lacks is a tune, which he is avoiding so I'm not out racing it. I don't want to be responsible of breaking it which is why I haven't tuned it myself or had TS do it on my nickel.

That the same reason I went ahead and put in the new transmission. I was scared of shredding it every time I would hit boost. I will probably start buying the parts before long. I am also going to start buying the parts for the suspension on my car. Those are really the only two things left to do to the car.

LOL, the last time Matt and I were out in the vert we destroyed the transmission in it. Like seriously loud BOOM! But he still beat that turbo hatch. :happy175:

You are a kill joy. Is there anything I post you can't make a negative out of.

Well, I understand why you think that right now since you arent happy with what is going on with your car right now and you're understandably pissy, but that wasn't my intent to be negative, was just telling funny story from yet another one of mine and Matt's adventures. Only us two goofballs could manage to take out a bullletproof car and destroy it on one rare night it went out. It was scary and hilarious all at the same time. :lol:

Luckily all it did was lose the input shaft. I had a new one installed, and it's as good or better than new (till it does it again!) ...:shakehead:

well the trans obviously wasnt bulletproof! hahaha I told my dad if there is a gd weak link, Ill find it. I break that car almost everytime I drive it. I broke his "built AOD" 3 times, broke the stock AOD under warranty twice, blew the stock motor up, rebuilt it on my own in a few days, blew it up the very next day after it was tuned... it's just a nightmare of a car. The complete opposite of the 86... that thing WONT break, even when I try to blow it up, it's like what else you got!?:happy107:

To the op this was just posted on dfwmustangs today

http://dfwmustangs.net/class/showpro...ers-408w&cat=9

thats a decent price, the F4TE is sort of a pos, but if he doesnt plan any power adders itll be fine.

Aod are junk no matter how much money you put in them