According to Harrison he can handle a stick pretty well.

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You have me confused with Jackson or Skinny Will. Now quit trolling. lol.

3 Friday's I have been out, you were not sir.

Matt you are correct, the car I'm talking about only mods are procharger, 9.1psi and fuel pumps to keep up. Car made 661rwhp and runs 7.01@101mph in he 1/8. This car will run 10.80@130+ 93oct

We have a brand new clutch in the car right now so no racing. Plus this week we are adding headers for some added power.

This is a solid 10 second car in the heat before the headers.

Maybe we could meet up at the track and give that vette a swing at this little Stang

Love ya Matt!!!! Lol

Sure

I'd get a set of slicks & skinnies & go drive your car balls out at the track then decide.

C-6 ls3 corvette
Cam header car
Headers, 1895$, $400 install, cam, $449, springs $450, labor to install cam and springs $750 tune $500

=$4444 and about 440-470rwhp

The car your talking about Matt is Vic's old nitrous car, here is the price to duplicate his car with out nitrous

C6 LS3 corvette
Headers, 1895$, $400 install, cam, $449, springs $450, labor to install cam and springs $750 tune $500, remove heads form motor, $350, shave heads for added compression $150, fly cut pistons for pison to valve clearence $450 head gaskets and bolts $ 159.00 ID injectors 850cc $800, boost a pump for added volume do to E-85 $279. $85 to install boost a pump

=$6717.99

Looks like a pretty big difference to me :-)

When you lay it out like that it's pretty significant!

Damn vettes are so expensive so glad I got a 5.oh. :nutkick:

The whole damn hobby is expensive! :Big Laugh:

Let's make sure we don't lose site of the argument. Header, camed c6 ls3 car would out run a supercharged 5.0.

5.0 600rwhp pretty easy

Ls3 vette 440-460rwhp

From a low roll it would be a close race till about 80ish mph. After that the power will make a pretty big difference and 5.0 wins every time being both drivers are close in skill

Just so we are all clear this is not me or my shop talking down about the corvette. We do just as many corvettes as we do new 5.0's. I am a BIG fan of both and think the LS3 is a fantastic motor. The statement of it is silly to mod a 5.0, should just buy a corvette with cam and headers is my only dog in this fight. There are many cars out today that make power and to classify them as not worth modding I disagree.

Me and Matt are friends and some of this is just friendly poking/ shit talk. Just don't want the Internet twisting this into something it's not.

Well, I'm screwed.. lol.

No shit. Considering I paid TS rent for few months from my car. lol

Well seeing as Vic did most of the work if not all himself it comes out a lot cheaper. He even flycutted his own pistons. With the Spray he was making like 730rwhp I think but was running and beating 800+ HP cars.

Vic ran E85.. do you need it .. no? PLENTY of heads/cam vettes run 93.. i know i made about the same power as Vics car with almost no milling to my heads... and several people made well OVER what i did with milled heads/cam.

headers for 1900?? LOL!!! you can get a set of LG Super PRos off CF For $1400ish NEW on one of the many vendor sales that happen ever few months.


You are still comparing apples to orangers IMO.. for X dollars you can buy a NEW GT vs a used Vette.. IMO the vette is a much nicer car and more car.. but IMO if going FAST in the 1/4 is your objective... there are many cars you could go fast in the 1/4 for much cheaper.


I do know though that at 490 rwhp i was walking away from 500 + rwhp Blown mustangs.. and on a 150 shot i was pulling 700+ RWhp Turbo Stangs... and my car was never light for a vette with my fat ass in it..

IMO you shouldnt look at the GT vs vette as to which you can go faster for less with because neither are cheap to mod.. it should be which car do you want to Drive..

For qtr mile racing I'd go Mustang hands down. Live axle is hard to beat from a launch. Fuck by an old fox, 347, nitrous, enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWfYJyBUl5o

Exactly.. if you want to focus on 1/4 mile.. the BEST bang for the buck is a fox body or a 4th gen f-body.

For the hwy you want aero. I wonder how a new 5.0 stripped out to a vettes weight would fair considering the aero advantage? Then again To have downforce your gna produce some drag.

my vette has always been HEAVY... and HP to HP i have stomped a mud hole in every newer stang i have run.

Your car would still be lighter then me even with your ass in it Feld. LOL If your vette weighed 3800 with you and my car weighed 3800 with me at what point would the Aero diff come into play?

If recall over 65 wind resistance/aerodymancs start to become a factor.. over 100.. a much higher factor.

Wish there was a way to test this theory. Load dwn the vette with some weight and go on a run.

load it down?? all i need to do is get in and its over 3800lbs lol

Steve, I thought you were getting a C6Z...

It's going to have to wait until at least next year now if I do it at all.

Has to be even power! LOL:biggun:

that sounds bout right, Vic ran a 10.6 @132 in his silver car on motor so it woulda been a fun race to 140 or so...

The blown vette I wanted u guys ro run is owned by Carlos, I'm sure he will run it at the track eventually.

460 rw out of a cammed ls3 is sad. Sounds like an old mans cam. My orange car made 501rw with timing and 484 with nitrous timing -6 degrees. Most good cammed ls3s make 490-510 without cutting heads.

Vic made 511 I think ON 93 for the record... It didn't need E85 ora boost a pump after all...

when will your car be driveable to do so? Mine will be ready this weekend, early next week at latest.

Have to ask Clint on that. Their dyno breaking put them back a few days.

Im in no hurry, just thought it'd be fun.

Long tubes, no cats and no mufflers, but that's it. Stock crank, rods, pistons, cams, and everything else. If I had it to do over again, it would still have the stock exhaust manifolds on it too. Didn't gain nearly enough power to warrant the added expense.

Noted. Pretty much what this comes down to is just to wait on the boost.

Spray!!!

I'll have some numbers for you soon... should be in the 7.0/10.8 range through the auto.....

I'd love to run you. Only car I've raced was a turbo 93 Fox that ran mid 10s. Steve can chime in how that went if he wants. Injectors will be here tomorrow, then final tuning. Its at 559/593 before the old injectors were removed. They weren't done, just dirty and rusty, so no want them in the car anymore. Hoping for real close to 600/600. Tq is about there but car was banging out from 55-6500 with old cloggy injectors.

I'd say look for a quality set of lt headers. You can always sell the h-pipe. Then beef up the suspension more.

Steve I think you should build the car how you want it, not how everyone else wants you to build it.

But to answer your question on the blowers, if it were my car with the current mods you have. I would go with a p1, stage 2 inter cooler, kb bap, and retune. With 12-13 lbs of boost it should make mid to upper 600's and be 100% reliable and fun.

Or if a twin screw is your choice then add a tvs with 10-12 lbs of boost, huge heat exchanger, large tank for the water and good sized pump. This will keep heat soak as minimal as possible and still be fun.

Either way it will be a fun car that is 100% reliable drive it anywhere in complete comfort, you can haul the family in it if needed.

Oh an if you wanna talk track times, there are plenty of 5.0's running 10.9's with just bolt ons n/a...