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JOHNGT 07-25-2013 10:29 AM

I have 1 5/8 American racing headers btw

Doug1227 07-25-2013 12:20 PM

^ You mean the same diameter as we all used to run on 250 HP Foxes 10 years ago?

BLK2012GT 07-26-2013 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dark Pony (Post 41588)
Actually 1 7/8 are overkill on these cars. Keep in mind, they are only 302's...I do have 1 7/8 on min, but only because I got such a good deal on mine. I'm only $500 invested in LT's with my install included. 1 3/4 would be perfectly fine on these cars. As far as it "being worth it"...that's all relative. Boss IM's do nothing for these cars. They shift the power and up higher n the RPMs and force you to spin the motor upwards of 7800 RPMs to see max gains out of it. I saw 13 HP and lost 22 ft lbs of Tq. I know I gained HP and Tq with my LT's, so IMO LT's were a great investment. These two mods are the most highly debated mods and people are always going to differ in opinions. All it takes is money...

I picked up more tq and hp when I switched from bbk 1 5/8 to American racing 1 7/8.

5PointSlow 07-26-2013 09:08 AM

I run the 1 7/8 SWs. Beside the O2 sensor issues (solved by relocating courtesy of true street. ) well worth the money.

Dark Pony 07-26-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 41915)
I picked up more tq and hp when I switched from bbk 1 5/8 to American racing 1 7/8.

With the same setup as before? Just a header swap? How much HP and TQ? It couldn't have been much.

JDMLOL 07-26-2013 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 5PointSlow (Post 41942)
I run the 1 7/8 SWs. Beside the O2 sensor issues (solved by relocating courtesy of true street. ) well worth the money.

Was that because the front sensors were reading off of only one primary tube? My jbas are the same and im wondering if I need to relocate them to the collector.

Toby 07-26-2013 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMLOL (Post 42132)
Was that because the front sensors were reading off of only one primary tube? My jbas are the same and im wondering if I need to relocate them to the collector.

no his were aimed to where water would collect in the sensor and kill it.

IMO putting the oxygen sensor in a primary tube is the dumbest idea i have seen. Not only does it restrict flow on that cylinder, it does not give an accurate reading back to the computer.

JDMLOL 07-26-2013 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 42152)
no his were aimed to where water would collect in the sensor and kill it.

IMO putting the oxygen sensor in a primary tube is the dumbest idea i have seen. Not only does it restrict flow on that cylinder, it does not give an accurate reading back to the computer.

Im considering throwing extensions on and moving them. I guess I'd need a custom tune though. Im like you, idk why they did that either because it doesnt get a reading from the other cylinders so if they have issues it wouldn't throw a MIL.

Toby 07-26-2013 11:35 PM

You wont need extensions, just move the harness around a little and they will reach.

Dark Pony 07-27-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by JDMLOL (Post 42154)
Im considering throwing extensions on and moving them. I guess I'd need a custom tune though. Im like you, idk why they did that either because it doesnt get a reading from the other cylinders so if they have issues it wouldn't throw a MIL.

I have an extra one if you need it

G-Mann 08-03-2013 01:23 AM

Love my LT's and what it brought to the table for my tuners to work with, particularly in conjunction with my other mods.

I would most def do it over again I was thinking to myself when I walked a SRT 392 a couple weeks back.

Depends on how long I keep my ride would it be worth the investment. Might be keeping her for a while if she continues to run this strong and no issues.


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