I agree that its minimal at best. I raced one with 3:73's and close to the same mods I have and I put on him couple cars. Then again drivers.

I'm applying this to the fact that they both have the same mods, and are running the same tires. Yeah, I know I haven't raced much, I'm not trying to prove that. But if you have two cars that are basically the same mods, same power level, same tune, etc, and the only difference is gears and driver, it's a pretty good guarantee they 3.73 car will take the advantage over the 3.31 car, starting at the same speed, because the 3.73 car will have the ability to reach the shift points at a sooner time. I don't really understand the argument on shifting. If you know what you're doing, you aren't taking your sweet time rowing gears in a race, so shifting is negated, as I said before, since the ground that is gained when the other shifts is lost as soon as you shift.

Lol just stop. You need more seat time to learn and put down the calculator.

I know I need more seat time. Do you see me denying that?

I can't afford (time and money) to hit the track every weekend to, especially when the nearest track worth racing on is about 1 hour away.

Call me a bench racer. IDGAFFMF!

All I'm doing is using the fact and information currently available to me to form an opinion.

You dont need a track for seat time. I learned late at night, on backroads, pick up races on the hwy. Shit just drive it man. Besides what would a track have to do with this race?

I work. I have a dog to take care of. I have a life outside of the car scene. I can't afford to just go drive around right now. If I were still in college, maybe. I can't just head out during the night and drive around. Believe me, I would love to, but not at the scarification of sleep that could possibly affect my job performance. And unfortunately pick up races just don't seem to find me on the highway. And I surely won't do it in traffic out of the safety of others.

Man your dense. I work as well. "Feel" your car....

I'm dense? Haha. Funny. Why not just say "feel the car" to begin with?

I drive the car daily. I have a good feel for the car. I'm not going to race it everywhere though, and most of the time I'm on the road is when I'm coming home from work, or have other passengers with me, of which I really don't race when that happens, unless I know the passenger doesn't mind. I don't just get in, drive to work, then get out. I do have fun with it and drive it hard sometimes. But a lot of the time I'm not in a good position (location, traffic, time frame, etc) where I can just go out and drive it. That is what I was saying above.

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How about I just come back after 10 years of driving my car and start again?...

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Oh, so that still doesn't account for getting seat time and learning the car?

If you want to prove anything, I will be at Ennis next weekend if you want to come beat me with with your car.

I'll gladly be waiting. I will never go to Northstar.

Seen the other post. You see what we have here is trouble with distance. Im sure in time I will meet you.

So back to the race :) looks fun indeed, and yeah that camera car hauled ass!!

I hate to bring this back up. But I had 3.31s from the factory, swapped it for 3.55s why? 3.55s were dead split in the middle for drag and hwy rolls. I love the 3.55s and the 3.31s are great too. Ask David(phuck face) but 3.31s vs 3.73s would be real close. Yes the 3.73 would accelerate faster but durning the shift the 33.1s will pull back the ground and if a good driver wouldn't matter. Over all it'd boil down to a driver race not who has what gears. I can slam gears pretty damn quick so it doesn't matter to me. I have a video of me running two deep(my girl as camera holder)(him by himself) against another 5.0 with the same mods but he had 3.73 gears. And from a 40 roll to 140-145 I pulled him by almost a car both races. His shifting seemed legit. So its all in how the car feels and driver

Dirty: let me know when you're at Ennis. I'm looking to take the Boss on a few runs and Ennis is my preferred track.

IMO roll racing isn't racing...racing from a dig is racing

Agreed minor bolt on cars roll racing is a waste. If you cant launch it and control the power then you shouldn't be racing.

Big builds that cry they cant hook up and have to roll race perhaps you need a new builder and to work on suspension and technique.

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This

Respectfully, most people who say that have never been in a 1000rw street car to get why its so fun. Its just something you have to expierence for yourself. Its a rush like no other.

I love to run from a dig. But sometimes, and JUST sometimes I'm not always in the mode to launch my car and eat 2/32nds of thread, put all the stress on the drive train ect. that comes from dig races. roll races are just as much as a "race" as a dig. techniques still exist on roll races, don't see how you figure any different.

Agreed most people...

The only real race is from a dig. But I also don't street race, so take it for what it's worth. Too many variables you can't control on a city street, bump, dips, dipshits, cars turning or pulling out, LEO's hidden from view, just doesn't seem worth it anymore.

For the most part we never ran the cars while there were any cars in front of us, and made sure we had a clear shot. In one run we did come up on traffic pretty quick but it happens. Generally two cars doing hwy rolls are somewhat as safe as doing it on the track. as long as no traffic is in front of you.

Roll racing is less about the driver and more about the car. I enjoy it as much as the next guy. That being said I don't think it requires as much technique or skill as pure drag racing at a track. I do agree that going from a dig will eat up your tires and wear on your tranny but that's part of racing...

Shifting, knowing when to shift all play a factor in roll racing. And when it comes to lower rolls were spinning comes into play, it takes a driver to control/stop it. Driver always plays a huge part IMO at least whenever it comes to any sort of racing.

Roll racing a 500rw car doesnt take much skill. A 1000rw+ car is a different story entirely. Those cars are monsters and a handful to drive.

I will leave it as we just disagree. I sure do love to roll race in Mexico but I know it's not a true test of my racing abilities or disabilities :)

Which is multiplied even more so when racing from a dig. It takes skill in setting up a car and practice as a driver from a dig.

Any skill that has to be utilized from a roll has to be thrice as good from a dig.

Agree with all statements above. But Derek and I wanted to see how the cars compared with almost identical mods. That's all. I love dig races and will run from one any time. Don't let my stupid comments above fool you lol. Ochoblanco we are not disagreeing I'm agreeing with you.

Exactly. Jay and I were curious how our cars stacked up against each other. By choosing hwy rolls we were able to eliminate the errors that could occur during dig races, I.e. Traction, suspension, etc, since we both has a different wheel/tire setup and such.

As ochoblanco, roll racing is about the cars. Each of us are pretty close in driving ability, and we now know that my tune needs a slight revision to give it back it's edge up top, as well as a different intake.