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DirtyD 12-17-2013 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by StangFreak (Post 59112)
How much is an AED tune? is the lope tune the same or is it different?

Last I know is $320 for 3 tunes I think. Lope tune was an extra $50

StangFreak 12-17-2013 01:13 AM

[QUOTE=DirtyD;59118]Last I know is $320 for 3 tunes I think. Lope tune was an extra $50[/QUOTE

What are the differences in the tunes ?

fordplay 12-17-2013 08:31 AM

There is no reason to bash anyone or any company here, that's uncalled for, I run a safe bama tune, I'm sure an AED or another could get me another 5 to 10 horse, but not free like bama.. and I drive with my hood open all the time!!! Ace ventura style head out the window! All the kids are doing it these days... you guys make good points about the data logging tunes vs dyno but ... I'll have to test it out.. and I wasn't suggesting the other companies could see the other companies tune I'm suggesting they outright purchased one to compare that's all, 3 years ago I bet Lund and others that had inside info were better. But now they are all really close.

Yagermeister 12-17-2013 09:39 AM

fordplay,

Ace Ventura style FTW!!!

On a different note, if you purchase a tune from a company you cannot simply see the settings in the tune with the SCT dealer software as the file format is completely different. When you use the SCT software as a dealer or a proracer (as SCT calls it), you make your tune then you save it in one format and then must convert it into another to send to a customer thereby encrypting it. If you want to see what is in the tune file as a customer, you either have to have the dealer send you the tune file in the dealer format or you can try to datalog the car and you can start to make some educated guesses about what certain settings are based on what you see in the datalogs but you will not see what really is in the tune.

BERT 12-17-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 58896)
awww im sorry not everyone sucks clint's dick. go with aed if you want a good tune.



Did he screw up the tune on your Miata? :blah:

OG Fox 12-17-2013 11:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BERT (Post 59133)
Did he screw up the tune on your Miata? :blah:

yeah man. cus ive always owned the miata. EAD.

BERT 12-18-2013 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 59147)
yeah man. cus ive always owned the miata. EAD.



Is that when you knew you were gay? When you bought the Miata?

OG Fox 12-18-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BERT (Post 59149)
Is that when you knew you were gay? When you bought the Miata?

It's not gay when your on top. :love62:

fordplay 12-18-2013 08:16 AM

Yager, so the tune is encrypted and you can't reverse engineer it??? Hmm mm interesting. .. modern tuning is black magic to me, I've never had the patience to program either so... and OG.. not to get involved in another person's argument. . But.. yes. Even on top you are!!! Ha ha

Yagermeister 12-18-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by fordplay (Post 59153)
Yager, so the tune is encrypted and you can't reverse engineer it??? Hmm mm interesting. .. modern tuning is black magic to me, I've never had the patience to program either so...

Anything can be reverse engineered given resources...which is how SCT and Diablosport make a living...unencrypting Ford's tuning ;) For the average tuner/shop to do so isn't just as easy as buying someone else's tune and looking at it is all I was saying.

BERT 12-18-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 59150)
It's not gay when your on top. :love62:




I'm literally LMAO over here. Good one

fordplay 12-19-2013 08:58 AM

I'd actually be very interested in someone that could take 2 tunes and compare them, maybe even in the same car, not just butt dyno, hell not even a real dyno, but someone that could say ok tune "x" employs a 900 rpm idle and a 25% advance throttle opening and so much torque management and tune "z" does 23 degree advance ... Etc. . You know? Like my steeda tune is great but very safe and I swear when I shift it takes away 50% throttle, the bama race tune is a monster, just shreds tires Alllllllllll the time but I swear when I get a bad tank of gas and I'm wot and shift I hear predetnation, the logs see nothing but I swear I hear it on bad gas, however the performance tune saves my tires and I think has a touch of torque management in there.. and other tunes are all in the middle. But I could be wrong on everything???

Dan12GT 12-19-2013 11:30 AM

Brent you need hood struts!

Yagermeister 12-19-2013 11:48 AM

They are on my Christmas list along with a new radiator shield that the current hood prop has scratched up ;)

jerseyjoe 12-19-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by StangFreak (Post 59112)
How much is an AED tune? is the lope tune the same or is it different?

$250 for street and race tunes + $75 to add cam lope tune

Boss949 12-19-2013 10:26 PM

I'm new here. I've had AED tunes since 7/13. Performance Tune and Drag Tune are the same except on the Drag the nannies are disabled. I also have the Lopey.

Absolutely worth effort. I like to run at the TMS Friday Night Drags. After getting the Tunes from Shaun and adding MT ET II's DR's. My car was completely different. Shaun is also great at customer service.

A couple of things that I learned along the way about SCT/Tuning, etc.
(if this has been posted before than forgive me for redundancy)
1. Get a 2 amp trickle charger There is something that can cause voltage to change during the downloading in the 2011+ 5.0's. (SCT tech told me)
2. Always retune at home and make sure auto/lamps and all acc are off.

I had an issue with pump gas from this area. Shaun said he had a few guys in Texas that he had the same experience with. I just use Shell 93 now.

As good as the Tune is; I'm still looking at Whipple 2.9!!!

kdanner 12-20-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss949 (Post 59311)
As good as the Tune is

At the TX Mile where it is all about power and there are no traction/suspension excuses, none of his cars seem to ever get it done. Even a TVS blown car he did was stuck in the mid 160s. Lund seems to be exactly the opposite, many strong cars there, year after year.

Dan12GT 12-20-2013 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 59241)
They are on my Christmas list along with a new radiator shield that the current hood prop has scratched up ;)

Haha nice! Weight reduction lose that hood prop! LOL!

Dan12GT 12-20-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss949 (Post 59311)
I'm new here. I've had AED tunes since 7/13. Performance Tune and Drag Tune are the same except on the Drag the nannies are disabled. I also have the Lopey.

Absolutely worth effort. I like to run at the TMS Friday Night Drags. After getting the Tunes from Shaun and adding MT ET II's DR's. My car was completely different. Shaun is also great at customer service.

A couple of things that I learned along the way about SCT/Tuning, etc.
(if this has been posted before than forgive me for redundancy)
1. Get a 2 amp trickle charger There is something that can cause voltage to change during the downloading in the 2011+ 5.0's. (SCT tech told me)
2. Always retune at home and make sure auto/lamps and all acc are off.

I had an issue with pump gas from this area. Shaun said he had a few guys in Texas that he had the same experience with. I just use Shell 93 now.

As good as the Tune is; I'm still looking at Whipple 2.9!!!


I think I've seen you driving around the Trophy Club / Roanoke area! :)

DirtyD 12-20-2013 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 59321)
At the TX Mile where it is all about power and there are no traction/suspension excuses, none of his cars seem to ever get it done. Even a TVS blown car he did was stuck in the mid 160s. Lund seems to be exactly the opposite, many strong cars there, year after year.

I've come to think that his tunes are more about a mesh between solid power and driveability, and not just straight power.

Boss949 12-21-2013 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan12GT (Post 59325)
I think I've seen you driving around the Trophy Club / Roanoke area! :)

Yes, you have. I've seen you also. I live in TC.

Your car sounds great. I was at Roanoke Rd/170 when you went by.

Boss949 12-21-2013 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 59321)
At the TX Mile where it is all about power and there are no traction/suspension excuses, none of his cars seem to ever get it done. Even a TVS blown car he did was stuck in the mid 160s. Lund seems to be exactly the opposite, many strong cars there, year after year.

I ran The Mile for the first time. I only did 2 runs. 143 to qualify and then 152.7 later on Friday. I really didn't know I should have just kept it in 4th, etc. On my second run, it was into about 25 mph head wind and I could really tell the difference. Had to leave Friday night. I'm thinking my car can do 160 ish.??? However, I noticed your speed: 180; that's very good. You running Lund with what blower?

My son-in-law has CTS V (800+ rwhp) and he maxed out at 196 ( I think; have to verify)

ps Im also looking at VMP, Roush, etc…

Yagermeister 12-21-2013 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss949 (Post 59382)
I ran The Mile for the first time. I only did 2 runs. 143 to qualify and then 152.7 later on Friday. I really didn't know I should have just kept it in 4th, etc. On my second run, it was into about 25 mph head wind and I could really tell the difference. Had to leave Friday night. I'm thinking my car can do 160 ish.??? However, I noticed your speed: 180; that's very good. You running Lund with what blower?

My son-in-law has CTS V (800+ rwhp) and he maxed out at 196 ( I think; have to verify)

ps Im also looking at VMP, Roush, etc…

Boss949, kdanner tunes his own car and it is a NA Boss engine with a 6R80 trans in it...no blower, no turbo, and no NOS

Boss949 12-21-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 59383)
Boss949, kdanner tunes his own car and it is a NA Boss engine with a 6R80 trans in it...no blower, no turbo, and no NOS

That is impressive!!!

Yager: I've seen your Youtube also. Very impressive. Thanks for info.

Yagermeister 12-21-2013 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Boss949 (Post 59384)
That is impressive!!!

Yager: I've seen your Youtube also. Very impressive. Thanks for info.

No problem!

kdanner 12-21-2013 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss949 (Post 59382)
I ran The Mile for the first time. I only did 2 runs. 143 to qualify and then 152.7 later on Friday. I really didn't know I should have just kept it in 4th, etc. On my second run, it was into about 25 mph head wind and I could really tell the difference. Had to leave Friday night. I'm thinking my car can do 160 ish.??? However, I noticed your speed: 180; that's very good. You running Lund with what blower?

Yager already explained it pretty well. First time I ran the mile was in 2011, 160.4 with the bone stock engine, and I even had a 4.30 axle at the time. I had to borrow some taller tires to get it over 160 on my last run, and I did blow them off pretty hard so if I had more time it could have done somewhat better. Switched to a 3.31 axle and in 2012 I had the Boss engine and ran 171.5, I think I was pretty close to getting the most out of it I could at the time. 2013 I changed some things around and had the CJ manifold on the Boss engine. The 180 was a perfect run, and would be very hard for me to duplicate again. When it shifted into 4th gear right as the 1/4 mile mark went by, I knew it was going to be a good one. The car really needed a 3.15 gear in it to eliminate shifting into 5th, and it would do a bit better. The auto trans is a handicap out there, always chasing shift points in the calibration, the mile is the one place I wish I had a manual trans.

Another guy Cliff Elliot, he has been there every year I've been going, his 2011 GT/CS auto ran 144.0/169.2 this year. Fairly typical bolt on car, I know it has a Boss intake, and I think headers. Cliff and I have both outrun a lot of blown and nitrous 2011+ cars and GT500s out there.

I think the big thing is reduce drag as much as possible. Anything that sticks out on a side, or up, or hangs down underneath is just slowing the car down. I don't have any rear spoiler, no GT/CS fascia or splitters on the front end, it is just a stock GT front end. I take the mirrors off, and I cover the front end of the car in Road Wrap so no air gets through the grille or the lower opening. That's it, no tape all over the car like you'll see some doing out there. This car certainly doesn't look like it runs 180, but I spend my money making it faster, not on "look at me" crap. https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/...84948640_n.jpg

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Boss949 12-22-2013 12:31 AM

Kdanner,

Nice car and great times. I really like the look; simply fast.

I like your 1/4 et. What mods?

I went to The Mile for the experience of it. Not sure when I'll run it again.

Dominic Toretto 12-22-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 59424)
This car certainly doesn't look like it runs 180, but I spend my money making it faster, not on "look at me" crap.

HEY!! I like my look-at-me crap very much sir!

Congrats on the run, 180 is very impressive in the mile. Also very impressive you are doing that NA and whooping up on some blown cars. Always enjoyed seeing your NA setup put a hurting on the tracks. Are you using stock cams, or anything aftermarket?

-Alex

kdanner 12-22-2013 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss949 (Post 59433)
I like your 1/4 et. What mods?

Other than the intake and headers on the engine, it has a converter, 3.31 axle, really good suspension and tires. 3.5 years worth of refining the calibration.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 59436)
Are you using stock cams, or anything aftermarket?

Stock Boss cams.

toomnymods 12-29-2013 04:13 AM

damn 180 in the mile is fuckin smokin.. I've never done the mile before so excuse my ignorance,lol Is blocking off all the air cooling the radiator safe? I imagine if you where making 700-800hp it'd probably cause the engine to blow or risk detonation? I'd like to try the texas mile eventually but doubt I'd come anywhere close to your numbers.
I'd be happy with 160 though :)

kdanner 12-29-2013 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by toomnymods (Post 59725)
damn 180 in the mile is fuckin smokin.. I've never done the mile before so excuse my ignorance,lol Is blocking off all the air cooling the radiator safe? I imagine if you where making 700-800hp it'd probably cause the engine to blow or risk detonation? I'd like to try the texas mile eventually but doubt I'd come anywhere close to your numbers.
I'd be happy with 160 though :)


There's a lot of time to wait before you run so the engine is cool. I've never seen more than 212 water temp at the end of a run.


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