You know what....


Nevermind. Not worth it. I won't make a post towards you or comment on anything you say again if that is what you think.

I'm joking, Steve. :lol:

Lighten up a little bit. That's why I had the smiley face at the end.

Lol at this thread and Dan specifically. The lack of knowledge is strong with this one.

Didn't know boosted's cars has changed so much. Your right I don't follow it much because I don't have the time so I don't know the present state of his car. I just have always heard his car car was full interior. My bad.

No I don't know what it's like to have a billion hp car and roll race because I don't care.

I was simply stating that's a pretty lame form of racing to me (my personal opinion). Y'all don't have to get so defensive about that. I'm just stating my opinion.

That lambo will run laps around any Mustang on this site... just because the owner only chooses to roll race it doesnt mean it cant do turns or run from a dig. driver included, since everyone says he cant go around turns bla bla

I would hope Mullet's Lambo would run laps around any Mustang on this site. :lol:

But but Danny they have 1300+ HP how can you not think they are cool?

You guys are missing our point. Just not a fan of this type of racing. I prefer racing that is more about the driver than the car itself, which is why I like autocross and road racing. That's just my opinion. The level of skill for the driver is less than that on a road course or even drag strip imo that's all I'm saying. Yes I know it prolly takes more skill to roll race one of these compared to drag racing a Honda or some crap. Just simply stating if I had that kind of money not the kind of race car I would build. Not saying it's not cool. Fuck Yea who doesn't want to see a car do 180 in a safe environment but just not my cup of tea. More impressive to me if it can do 180 in the 1/4

Well hearing the responses made it sound like no one could verify it as a corner carver anymore

They go 180 in qtr too.

I don't see 180 out of some of these cars. Maybe 175 or so. Only because they make up so much MPH on the back half.

But I gaurantee it would be a hell of a lot harder to plant 1600 awhp on a road course when truly pushing the car hard. I don't even think it would be possible, honestly.

So they do 180 in the 1/4 yet also 180 in 1/2 mile with a 60mph head start?

Yep.
And high hp dig racing is a test of parts durability. Not knocking dig racing, but some hate the "maintenance" costs.

...but with a 1.8x 60 ft time...
Lambos have a ridiculously long 1st gear, this allows 2-6 to emulate a close ratio transmission.

It's a form of racing that is not for everyone.
But it is FUN!!
Other than the Texas Mile, where else can you legally throw 5th gear under full boost?

I think the elitist group are missing the point. Nobody is saying the cars aren't cool. I know it takes some skill to drive them but no where near road racing or drag racing (not saying these cars can't do it, had to say that before that got thrown in my face). I just don't find it entertaining to watch, maybe its different in person I don't know. That's my whole complaint is its not fun to watch. Its roll racing, roll racing isn't that fun to watch in person let alone on the computer.

Before this gets going I know my fox is slow and I can't compete with these cars. I do not have car penis envy, so that's not why I am saying this.

Don't bring up drag racing either because it takes a hell of a long time to get a setup dialed in and running the times you want. I did race for a long time and my 1/8 and 1/4 miles times are better than most the cars on this site and dfwm. I just don't brag about them, now that I sold it I really can't but I didn't brag when I was running those times.

Labeling "elistist" because it's not a fox isn't fair at all. Ronnie (Rlhay) has a badass Mustang worthy of running at the event and he's anything but elitist. He'll take the time to talk to anyone about cars. Very cool guy. He isn't the only Mustang or non Lambo out there. Yes, there is some high dollar cars and maybe a few "elitist" ego types, but that's not the typical type. I know a lot of these guys and they are just car guys like anyone else, their toys just happen to be a little more expensive.

It's cool, you don't like it. I get it. I think they are exciting to watch at the events and enjoy the hell out of it. :)

Agreed on all points!

I love it when the UGR cars get about half track and it looks like they get rearended by a freight train and just take off! Sound wicked too!:rockit:

Actually, it's not a stretch at all when Youtube can reach more of an audience than a nationally televised event. NBC is national, youtube is GLOBAL.

So yes, I still say it's on the same ratio of comparing a Friday night meet to this event which is much more well known. Hell, even the TX2K events are far more well known than the Friday night meet for a local group. People come from all over the country to Houston to roll race. Juss sayin.

-Alex

Exactly, and its exactly how its been for years. 1/8th mile guys talk shit about 1/4. 1/4 guys talk shit about mile/half mile/TI, etc... Roll racers talk shit about drag racing.

The only issue I have with any of this. Is the judgement with lack of experience. That drives me nuts in every area of motorsports. I hear from Road Racers CONSTANTLY that they don't drag race because its boring and easy, yet they have never driven anything faster then a 12 second car and have no real world experience.

Not thinking its cool, and it not being your fine is all well and good. The only thing im disagreeing with is how you guys seem to take that it takes less setup/skill/etc... to get these cars to hook. When in reality you have no experience with it. Experience > reading shit in motor trend and thinking you know whats up

Several have been 180+ at the track

This is the type of post that drives me nuts.

You are saying it takes less skill and effort. I'm asking you if you've done it personally? Otherwise how do you know how much skill/effort it takes to put down 1500whp without track prep at a 60mph start?



Once again. It not being your thing, fine. You thinking its lame, fine. You hating rich people, fine. You hating religion, fine. Dont give a crap about any of that.

But when I see people with no experience in a certain type of racing, talk about how easy that type of racing is. It drives me nuts, you literally have no clue what you are talking about. It really is that simple. More internet experts with no experience.

Hook, line, and sinker! BOOM! (agreed with most of this)

I do agree too though it does take some serious skill, tuning, and testing to control one of these mammoth horse power cars though


But....

You do have to agree going from a 60 roll does add some control factor to the race. The control factor meaning a safe starting speed because these cars have too much power to go from a dig for their current setup.

Hooking from a stop at the track is easier then it is at TI, FYI

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

Because they don't want to dig race, I'm confused on why you refuse to see that?

Also several of these guys on radial race cars, or race teams as well.

You need to consider safety, imagine the trap speeds of a car that traps 180 in the 1/4 but in the 1/2. Also gearing, stopping distance, etc...

Just trying to understand more that's all.

Who says they aren't? Just because this video exists, doesn't mean that they do not also do other stuff with these cars. There are people that prep the same car for 1/4 mile and autocross.

-Alex

Well... I am sure they do as it seems these guys are into racing obviously. Just reaffirms my feelings towards it. Just not a fan of roll racing and its hard for me to see the point.

It doesn't add any control factor what-so-ever. Any of those cars with the wrong tune could just as easily blaze the tires at 60, 80, 100+. You're still thinking like a low powered horsepower guy. It's all in the tune, bring the power too soon, it will murder the tires. Too late, you get drug by the other car. Like any kind of racing, it's finding the sweet spot for the conditions.

Btw, those big "dig" cars you were talking about are notorious for breaking. Going from a dead stop, at rest, is extremely stressful on a car and those cars constantly destroy drivetrain and rearend parts, twist chassis etc. Get maybe two or three passes out of a clutch if they are actually rowing gears. The auto cars are just point and shoot using fancy traction control boxes like a Davis box that cost $15k alone.

Hell, some of those KOTH cars cost as much or more as some of the T1 GTR's and URG Lambos! lol.

Good god that video had nothing but pure sex in it. And keeping any car under control doing 170 plus does take skills. I was doing 160 when I raced Eric and the car felt like it was floating. And you guys know damn well that type of racing would be a lot of fun. I would love to do that.

It has the same point as any other kind of racing, to compete, have fun and win.

:snoopfacepalm: my point is this all thing equal with the same car it is easier to roll race than it is to drag race and its easier to drag race than it is to road race/autox. whether its a 1500hp lambo or a 300hp mustang one thing will be harder to do than the other. To me this kind of racing is the easiest of the 3. That is just my opinion. Yes I am sure it takes quite a bit of skill to get this car to stay straight in a TI event. however I bet its even harder to launch at the track and run a fast time for its power level, and prolly even harder to control on a road course. That is all I was saying . I know these cars are stupid fast, and as they should be for the money they cost. Its just not my cup of tea. Your testing more about the car and less about the driver. If that is what you are after, to prove you own a faster car than everyone else, then this is the type of racing for you. Which is why a lot of people do it. I however would rather prove I am a better driver than others, which is why I like road/autox and occasionally the drag strip. You took it way too personal like we are saying you can't drive because you have a 1000+ hp car. Not what we were saying just that we think it takes less skill to get the same car down a roll race than it does for a dig race or a road race.

Ryan is just pissing off everyone this week. lol

Cops do that to people. Lol

:popcorn:

just wait till tomorrow...

It's going to rain.

Well said Ryan, exactly my view point as well!

You guys are cracking me up. I don't hate rich people, I make good money off rich people. As for the elitist comment it has nothing to do with the owners of those cars. It has to do with the attitude cheap ass mustang guys were getting about not understanding real horsepower expensive cars. Come on re-read your first few posts, they do come out a little pompous or at least that is how I read it.

To answer your question no I have not been in a 1000hp plus street car so you are right in the aspect, that I don't know what it feels like. I understand controlling one of these monsters cant be easy but to say it takes major skill, I just will not agree with. Now I have been high 7's in the 1/4 and know that's not simple, I just can't see roll racing being that difficult. I could be wrong.

Leave red fox verts alone, they are to slow to hurt anybody :snoopfacepalm:

Got some good news coming for you soon.

I didn't take anything personal. I LOL at people acting like they know what they are talking about. When in reality they have absolutely no clue.

Its very simple, you are in fact wrong.

Its pretty typical in the racing world, not just roll racing. Most car enthusiast think they are experts about all types of racing. Regardless of experience or not.

I'm a firm believer of speaking from experience, thats it.

In his efforts for revenue enchancement he will just get you for impeding... :stir::signs6::dogpile: