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GrabberMatt 04-03-2013 10:14 PM

What gains are you seeing on the OR/X ?
I have an Airaid CAI if anybody wants to use it on a CAI shoot out

Dark Pony 04-03-2013 10:33 PM

First off, props on the write up! Great job Tim!

Secondly, I think another look at this would be the fact that dyno results aren't necessarily the best indicator whether or not a part is truly effective. One thing that dyno results don't show is how much air flow you are getting on the road at 5k rpms...when the car is actually moving and collecting air respectively, it can truly make a huge difference.

I didn't notice a big difference after installing my JLT. Of course it IS tune required...with that being said up top...above say 4.5-5k rpms, I did notice it pulled a bit harder.

Honestly, this is simple physics...how much it gained? Not sure...but I felt a difference when my car is sucking in a lot more air at higher rpms!

pohnjarker 04-04-2013 02:04 AM

dyno numbers are great, but are subjective. i like track testing better.

saying that...i had a JLT CF CAI/tune on my car back last May before i came over here. i hit the track and pulled off a dismal 8.6 three times in a row. i took the JLT CF CAI off and installed the stock box/tune and again, ran 8.6 about 5 more times. given the small amount of HP the CAI gave me, not counting the tune, was enough for me to want to sell it.

i still have it but if you're looking for one for the shop, i will gladly give you the CAI to help pay for the work i have lined up in May.

i do like the sound that it makes and it looks badass but from a pure performance standpoint, its not worth the dough...IMO

JDBishopArts 04-04-2013 08:25 AM

I'll take the JLT CF CAI off you. Been looking for one. PM me a price. I'll be going to TS for a tune and we can use it for true numbers testing.

Luke 04-04-2013 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLASMAN (Post 24687)
I went from 364/352stock to 388/381 tune with Steeda CAI and mine is an auto.

This makes me happy about my o/r x purchase over a CAI. Lethal x-pipe and bama tune I got 394/391 at TS, also an auto.

Good write up, looking forward to some more info, I've been holding off on any CAI until I get something solid to go off of.

PLASMAN 04-04-2013 01:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke (Post 24735)
This makes me happy about my o/r x purchase over a CAI. Lethal x-pipe and bama tune I got 394/391 at TS, also an auto.

Good write up, looking forward to some more info, I've been holding off on any CAI until I get something solid to go off of.

I Have added OR pipes and a new tune and hope to be where you are now, waiting on next dyno day

pohnjarker 04-04-2013 02:57 PM

last years TS dyno day, i put down 408 with JLT CAI/Tune and cat deletes.
a beer says you break 400 Plasman :headbang:

TrueStreetTim 04-04-2013 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PLASMAN (Post 24742)
I Have added OR pipes and a new tune and hope to be where you are now, waiting on next dyno day

Coming up May 18th!


An X-Pipe thread is another write up all together lol. But it's arguable that they'd make very similar numbers. Another scenario we look to see more of to compare results.

Midnight11 04-04-2013 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pohnjarker (Post 24750)
last years TS dyno day, i put down 408 with JLT CAI/Tune and cat deletes.
a beer says you break 400 Plasman :headbang:

Gotta figure auto though

Kosovobandit 04-04-2013 04:01 PM

I did a small write up on this a while back on svtp. I dynoed stock, drop in k&n, and airaid. Also dynoed with the procal stock paper, drop in k&n, & airraid. The airraid did make a power gain at the rear wheels.

Grandpa 04-04-2013 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim (Post 24751)
Coming up May 18th!


An X-Pipe thread is another write up all together lol. But it's arguable that they'd make very similar numbers. Another scenario we look to see more of to compare results.


Here you go : http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...pipe-test.html

Dan12GT 04-05-2013 09:30 AM

I really want to say I think my Airraid picked up something for me. How much I am not sure. I got my car dyno'd bone stock and it put down 382/359 at HPP on a cold February day. I was at the last dyno day at TS which was on a warmer day. It put down 382/387. Funny how the HP number stayed the same though. I also have a Borla S-Type full catback so that more than likely accounted for some of the gains I got too but I can't image all of it. I picked up nearly 30ft/lbs. Granted different dynos, different days however I'd like to hold my Airraid intake accountable for some of that. Note: I am on stock tune by the way.

DirtyD 04-05-2013 09:34 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan12GT (Post 24842)
I really want to say I think my Airraid picked up something for me. How much I am not sure. I got my car dyno'd bone stock and it put down 382/359 at HPP on a cold February day. I was at the last dyno day at TS which was on a warmer day. It put down 382/387. Funny how the HP number stayed the same though. I also have a Borla S-Type full catback so that more than likely accounted for some of the gains I got too but I can't image all of it. I picked up nearly 30ft/lbs. Granted different dynos, different days however I'd like to hold my Airraid intake accountable for some of that. Note: I am on stock tune by the way.

It also depends on how dialed in the TQ is on the dyno. I know Shaun at AED has his TQ not dialed in, and it can read as much at 30-40+ normal, "real" numbers.

I dynoed 378/365 SAE and 387/375 STD with GT500 AB and that's it.

Dan12GT 04-05-2013 09:42 AM

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Both of my numbers were STD. From my understand HPP and TS are pretty similar on how their dynos are dialed in

Kosovobandit 04-05-2013 10:06 AM

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...no-procal.html

Link to my number on Airraid vs stock box in STD.


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