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Yagermeister 09-12-2013 03:22 PM

Cobra Jet Intake and Super Cobra Jet Throttle Body has been ordered!
 
Cobra Jet Intake and Super Cobra Jet Throttle Body and (soon to be released) FRPP Cobra Jet CAI has been ordered! Woohoo! Thank you Tousley Ford for the great prices! Pics are linked below. The last pic is of the CAI in Kdanner's engine bay.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...9424-M50CJ.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2771/M-9926-SCJ.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...senginebay.jpg

:grd:

wbt 09-12-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49739)
Cobra Jet Intake and Super Cobra Jet Throttle Body and (soon to be released) FRPP Cobra Jet CAI has been ordered! Woohoo! Thank you Tousley Ford for the great prices! Pics are linked below. The last pic is of the CAI in Kdanner's engine bay.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...9424-M50CJ.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2771/M-9926-SCJ.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...senginebay.jpg

:grd:

I didn't realize you could pre-order the CAI tube. Do you have the price by chance?

Yagermeister 09-12-2013 04:05 PM

Steve from Tousley made a quick phone call to FRPP and was able to put the package together. Not sure if it is really preordered but it came off my debit card already :) It was $273 from Tousley

wbt 09-12-2013 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49745)
Steve from Tousley made a quick phone call to FRPP and was able to put the package together. Not sure if it is really preordered but it came off my debit card already :) It was $273 from Tousley

Thanks. I may give him a ring and see if that is for the tube and airbox assembly or just the tube. I don't really need the whole kit since the airbox is an Airaid piece.

Yagermeister 09-12-2013 04:33 PM

Let me know what he says as I assumed it was the kit

Grandpa 09-12-2013 04:40 PM

I see on SVTP this is the new fad mod for the moment. lol

03MachMe 09-12-2013 05:35 PM

sweet should be some BOSS intakes up for sale soon then lol

Grandpa 09-12-2013 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 49760)
sweet should be some BOSS intakes up for sale soon then lol

I'm sure there will be a lot of them for sale soon at some reasonable prices.

Dominic Toretto 09-12-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 49760)
sweet should be some BOSS intakes up for sale soon then lol

Oh no you di int!

-Alex

Yagermeister 09-12-2013 06:04 PM

Have a Boss intake, Boss fuel rail covers, BBK 85tb, C&L cai, Boss strut tower brace all for sale now! PM me for pricing!

:eek:

blownaltered 09-12-2013 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49768)
Have a Boss intake, Boss fuel rail covers, BBK 85tb, C&L cai, Boss strut tower brace all for sale now! PM me for pricing!

:eek:

So your spending all that money to replace that for maybe 5 to 10 hp and maybe a few tenths of a second. Doesn't seem worth it to me. I would have saved that money and put it towards spray or boost personally.

Grandpa 09-12-2013 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 49770)
So your spending all that money to replace that for maybe 5 to 10 hp and maybe a few tenths of a second. Doesn't seem worth it to me. I would have saved that money and put it towards spray or boost personally.

Brent is a hardcore track guy so it's worth it to him for a tenth or two. I think he's a hardcore NA guy too.

I'm not bothering with a CJ or Boss intake. I'm going to do it the easy way with boost eventually.

Yagermeister 09-12-2013 06:50 PM

People are seeing 20-40 HP and that IS attractive to me for $500 upgrade charge

DirtyD 09-12-2013 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49776)
People are seeing 20-40 HP and that IS attractive to me for $500 upgrade charge

Are you going to be spinning it to the same RPM as the boss? Did you ever upgrade the valve train?

03MachMe 09-12-2013 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yagermeister (Post 49768)
have a boss intake, boss fuel rail covers, bbk 85tb, c&l cai, boss strut tower brace all for sale now! Pm me for pricing!

:eek:

dibs!!!

Yagermeister 09-12-2013 07:24 PM

Already shift at 7750 for 36,000 miles and 180 passes so no changes for me until I upgrade the springs

BLK2012GT 09-12-2013 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49776)
People are seeing 20-40 HP and that IS attractive to me for $500 upgrade charge

Over the boss?

Yagermeister 09-12-2013 08:37 PM

Yes look around...Boss cars hover in the 420-430 range and CJ intake cars are 450-490 depending on fuel and throttle body and cai choice

Dominic Toretto 09-12-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49787)
Yes look around...Boss cars hover in the 420-430 range and CJ intake cars are 450-490 depending on fuel and throttle body and cai choice

I knew this mod had to have some merit.

-Alex

DirtyD 09-12-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49781)
Already shift at 7750 for 36,000 miles and 180 passes so no changes for me until I upgrade the springs

Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I didn't remember you doing any valve train upgrades, but just asking anyways. It's going to be sweet.

Midnight11 09-13-2013 10:38 AM

brent is my hero

Yagermeister 09-13-2013 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 49791)
Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I didn't remember you doing any valve train upgrades, but just asking anyways. It's going to be sweet.

Cant wait Derek!





Quote:

Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 49804)
brent is my hero

Awww Nic...when I get rich I'll be your rich uncle in law three times removed

TrueStreetTim 09-13-2013 12:31 PM

Haven't had the plenum in our hands yet (or one on our dyno), what's the reported torque losses coming out to?

DirtyD 09-13-2013 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim (Post 49828)
Haven't had the plenum in our hands yet (or one on our dyno), what's the reported torque losses coming out to?

From what I think I remember seeing on SVTP, TQ losses are around the same as the Boss....I'll have to go back and find it....but I don't feel like it. :lol:

TrueStreetTim 09-13-2013 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 49829)
From what I think I remember seeing on SVTP, TQ losses are around the same as the Boss....I'll have to go back and find it....but I don't feel like it. :lol:

Damn you, D!

I'm assuming torque losses beyond that of a BOSS? Basically an overgrown BOSS that picks up peak but drops TQ only more in both directions?

Grandpa 09-13-2013 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim (Post 49831)
Damn you, D!

I'm assuming torque losses beyond that of a BOSS? Basically an overgrown BOSS that picks up peak but drops TQ only more in both directions?

Pretty much. There is no way it makes the power that Brent thinks it does. 50hp over what a Boss does? He's trying to say people are picking up 70hp with just an intake change in a NA platform. LOL, no way.

Only a turbo car will truly be able to benefit from the CJ intake.

DirtyD 09-13-2013 01:28 PM

From what I understood, the intake only really picked up more power when spinning to the motor up to the 8100 mark like the CJ motor...which obviously can't be done on a stock GT.

BLK2012GT 09-13-2013 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 49832)
Pretty much. There is no way it makes the power that Brent thinks it does. 50hp over what a Boss does? He's trying to say people are picking up 70hp with just an intake change in a NA platform. LOL, no way.

Only a turbo car will truly be able to benefit from the CJ intake.

Yeah I was going to say that but I didn't want to start shit cause I know how sensitive people are when I disagree with them.

Yagermeister 09-13-2013 02:08 PM

All the cars that have this intake are in the 450-490 range SAE with full boltons some with e85 some with 91/93. You pickup HP and TQ across the board and lose no more TQ than what the Boss already lost. The key is NOT the intake but rather the throttle body choice and the cold air tube and MAF...I chose the largest of both ;)

Grandpa 09-13-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49840)
All the cars that have this intake are in the 450-490 range SAE with full boltons some with e85 some with 91/93. You pickup HP and TQ across the board and lose no more TQ than what the Boss already lost. The key is NOT the intake but rather the throttle body choice and the cold air tube and MAF...I chose the largest of both ;)

I'm interested in seeing your results. That kind of power with bolt ons and a stock longblock would be impressive. The problem with it is having to rev the hell out of the stock valvetrain. In a couple more years I bet we start seeing a lot of cars running the Boss intakes spinning them in the upper 7k range starting to have valve/springs issues.

Yagermeister 09-13-2013 02:21 PM

Shifting the Boss at 7750 right now and plan on staying there until the winter when I do the crank trigger wheel, Boss springs and tensioners, and the 11mm/290° Cobra Jet exhaust cams...then I'll go to 8000

DirtyD 09-13-2013 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 49841)
I'm interested in seeing your results. That kind of power with bolt ons and a stock longblock would be impressive. The problem with it is having to rev the hell out of the stock valvetrain. In a couple more years I bet we start seeing a lot of cars running the Boss intakes spinning them in the upper 7k range starting to have valve/springs issues.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49844)
Shifting the Boss at 7750 right now and plan on staying there until the winter when I do the crank trigger wheel, Boss springs and tensioners, and the 11mm/290° Cobra Jet exhaust cams...then I'll go to 8000

Yeah, I would just wait and do all that at once just to avoid any potential headaches.

re-rx7 09-13-2013 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 49841)
I'm interested in seeing your results. That kind of power with bolt ons and a stock longblock would be impressive. The problem with it is having to rev the hell out of the stock valvetrain. In a couple more years I bet we start seeing a lot of cars running the Boss intakes spinning them in the upper 7k range starting to have valve/springs issues.

I agree.

Yagermeister 09-13-2013 02:38 PM

People are not having any headaches shifting at 7750 and are making the numbers mentioned without having to spin it higher right now so I'll be happy for awhile

Grandpa 09-13-2013 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49847)
People are not having any headaches shifting at 7750 and are making the numbers mentioned without having to spin it higher right now so I'll be happy for awhile

Stock longblock including cams/valvetrain, stock heads, through an auto making 490rw? LOL, you're asking an aweful lot of that lil smallblock and expecting to it live.

Yagermeister 09-13-2013 03:01 PM

Steve I said 450-490 depending on choices of parts and fuels. I never said I will get 490. If I get 450 on 93 I'll be happy...however...my car will not see a dyno so we won't know numbers but we will see track times...shooting for 10's in cool and warm weather like wbt

:beers:

KalEl370 09-13-2013 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49850)
Steve I said 450-490 depending on choices of parts and fuels. I never said I will get 490. If I get 450 on 93 I'll be happy...however...my car will not see a dyno so we won't know numbers but we will see track times...shooting for 10's in cool and warm weather like wbt

:beers:

I'm interested to see how it turns out for you. I might do this early next year. I have the pulse ring, upgraded valvetrain, built motor with billet gears and stage 3 cams. I haven't had mine on the dyno yet but hopefully will be attending the dyno day at TS. Keep ua posted!

Dan12GT 09-13-2013 07:35 PM

I've heard the CJ manifold picks up more power earlier than the boss maybe a 1000 rpm difference? Not sure if that power is more than stock at 4500-5500 but the losses are less in that range than t he boss manifold and it has more potential for peak horse power due to revving super high.

wbt 09-14-2013 03:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 49844)
Shifting the Boss at 7750 right now and plan on staying there until the winter when I do the crank trigger wheel, Boss springs and tensioners, and the 11mm/290° Cobra Jet exhaust cams...then I'll go to 8000

You won't get 8K out of the auto processor. The only way you are going to get there is with a non-computer controlled auto and a Boss processor.

Yagermeister 09-14-2013 09:21 AM

For a test, a tuner gave me a tune last year that had some special work done that let the auto shift at 8100 but I felt valve float or the car missing due to no trigger wheel. After three passes we took it off my car...so it is possible but not recommended until the trigger wheel and valvesprings are upgraded.


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