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BLK2012GT 08-30-2013 08:52 PM

I want a Whipple
 
That is all.

Stangmaster281 08-30-2013 08:55 PM

What brought about this change?

Midnight11 08-30-2013 09:02 PM

bc nos isnt constant power :D

BLK2012GT 08-30-2013 09:05 PM

Actually I watched getaway today and they had a super snake in it and they have a whipple and I love the sound it makes.

Rebelracer568 08-30-2013 09:54 PM

I want one to

DirtyD 08-30-2013 10:01 PM

Whine is fine!!!

Stangmaster281 08-30-2013 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 47683)
I want one to

Lol Everybody wants a whipple. Even I want a whipple, and I don't even have anything to put it on yet. :lol2:

JDMLOL 08-30-2013 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Stangmaster281 (Post 47685)
Lol Everybody wants a whipple. Even I want a whipple, and I don't even have anything to put it on yet. :lol2:

Lol. Right.

downtime! 08-30-2013 10:34 PM

I don't want a Whipple.

Stangmaster281 08-30-2013 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 47689)
I don't want a Whipple.

........Kenne Bell sucks.....:poker:

BLK2012GT 08-30-2013 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 47689)
I don't want a Whipple.

LOL you just want a smooth running car.

wbt 08-30-2013 11:37 PM

I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.

Paxton is king of the centri.

I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.

mavfan37 08-31-2013 12:02 AM

Stangmaster just wants another caprisun!

G-Mann 08-31-2013 12:10 AM

I want a Roush but I doubt it will ever happen. Remember when Beefcake and JPC were having that price war on the paxton. If that ever happens again I will be forced to purchase one.

BLK2012GT 08-31-2013 12:14 AM

Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.

Grandpa 08-31-2013 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 47707)
Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.

That would be nuts and fun as hell! PD blowers are so much fun in a street car its ridiculous. Foof's 3.4 whipple is a blast and scary. I cant imagine a 4.5 on full tilt!

downtime! 08-31-2013 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 47693)
LOL you just want a smooth running car.

More than you can imagine!

downtime! 08-31-2013 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47702)
I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.

Paxton is king of the centri.

I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.

Yeah, me too. Mine only runs high 10's at 8 psi on the baby 2.8LC and a shitty tune. And don't get me started about the shop owners car who installed mine. He has to get by with a measly 900 hp and 8.80's out of his. KB's suck.

Stangmaster281 08-31-2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 47707)
Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.

I didn't know they made a 4.5l. I thought it went 4.0, 5.0, then 8.3 being the biggest. Learn something new everyday here. @Justin Caprisun now with whipple flavor.

merlinmol 08-31-2013 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47702)
I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.

Paxton is king of the centri.

I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.

You forgot to put Magnuson in the list.

wbt 08-31-2013 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 47716)
Yeah, me too. Mine only runs high 10's at 8 psi on the baby 2.8LC and a shitty tune. And don't get me started about the shop owners car who installed mine. He has to get by with a measly 900 hp and 8.80's out of his. KB's suck.

My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.

Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.

Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.

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Originally Posted by merlinmol (Post 47718)
You forgot to put Magnuson in the list.

Agreed. Their horrible intake design is the limitation on that kit.

re-rx7 08-31-2013 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47719)
My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.

Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.

Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.

Yes his MPH was pretty high and the tune was crap.

downtime! 08-31-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47719)
My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.

Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.

Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.



Agreed. Their horrible intake design is the limitation on that kit.

It ran 131 mph, I just can't keep up with the shifts with my bad shoulder anymore. There's an auto swap in her future. And I never said that 900 came on the stock long block. I'm sure the KB could do it, but for every 1 KB you see out there, there are 100 Roush or Paxton cars. Much harder to get decent stats if no one is really running your product. Shelby seemed to like them enough for the Super Snake projects. But they are junk, I understand. And I'm actually less impressed with the KB stuff on the older cars. My kit, right out of the box, with no changes at all (stock pulley, factory throttle body, etc.) made enough power to go 10.80's at 131. Color me impressed. Wonder what she'll do when get around to turning it up? The bottom line is, everyone has an opinion, and that's great. It's exactly what's kept me doing this for the last 35 years. Not everyone has the same ideas, or does the same things. Keeps it interesting.

downtime! 08-31-2013 11:09 AM

And I would agree about the Magnuson as well, except that I have a buddy in Michigan with a CJ clone he built in his garage, and for whatever reason, he chose the Magnuson kit (I think because it came in blue, to be honest). His car runs bottom 10's all day long in 2100-2300 D/A, and once he really get's it dialed in, mid 9's will be in his future. Again, overall, something might suck, but you can be sure that someone, somewhere, has figured out how to make it fast.

zemog255 08-31-2013 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 47719)
My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.

Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.

He went 9s on 18s with the stock motor and stock converter. Full weight premium. I believe he posted its gone 6.19 or 6.20's with the built motor still on 18s. He doesn't post on forums much.

downtime! 08-31-2013 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by zemog255 (Post 47732)
He went 9s on 18s with the stock motor and stock converter. Full weight premium. I believe he posted its gone 6.19 or 6.20's with the built motor still on 18s. He doesn't post on forums much.

Pretty sure 8.8x's is his best so far. Car is pretty sick for a full weight automatic car with stock converter.

re-rx7 08-31-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 47733)
full weight automatic car with stock converter.

:head3::pepper::driver::peace:

zemog255 08-31-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 47733)
Pretty sure 8.8x's is his best so far. Car is pretty sick for a full weight automatic car with stock converter.

I meant in the 1/8th. Still very impressive I wish he would go to one of the big races with evolution, beefcake etc I think he would do pretty well.

Grandpa 08-31-2013 01:47 PM

Any supercharger will work well enough on these cars to put them into the 10s. It really comes down to personal preference and budget.

Personally KB and Magnuson would be on the bottom of my list. KB has horrible customer service and Magnuson's support on their Mustang products is really subpar. While the Magnuson is capable of making decent power it is the most inefficient of the bunch requiring to be spun harder to make the same power the others do out of the box while still carrying the hefty price tag.

Toby 08-31-2013 02:06 PM

We just finished a procharger install. P1 10 lbs, headers, and our custom tune it made 594 473 in todays 100* heat and 20% humidity.. My personal preference

downtime! 08-31-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 47744)
Any supercharger will work well enough on these cars to put them into the 10s. It really comes down to personal preference and budget.

Personally KB and Magnuson would be on the bottom of my list. KB has horrible customer service and Magnuson's support on their Mustang products is really subpar. While the Magnuson is capable of making decent power it is the most inefficient of the bunch requiring to be spun harder to make the same power the others do out of the box while still carrying the hefty price tag.

I don't disagree with anything that's been said here, or in the other posts. I'm not a KB nutswinger by any means, and if the deal wouldn't have been so good (Installed, tuned, larger injectors, BAP, etc, for much less than the cost of the kit alone), there would be a Hellion kit on my car right now. My point is simply that it doesn't matter how bad you think something sucks, someone has figured out how to make it fast. It's all a matter of sticking with it, and figuring out what works. Would I buy a Magnacharger? No. Have I seen fast cars that use them? Definitely. Same for any of the blowers, as you said. Decent tuning will get you a 10 second street car out of any of them. My car is full weight (3755 with me in it when it was N/A, figure an extra 150 pounds now, so 3900 ready to race), full leather interior, no weight reduction at all other than removing the spare and jack, stock suspension except for a set of J&M lca's, stock MT82, stock 3.55 geared rear end, we bolted an out of the box base 2.8LC kit on it and it ran 131 mph in the quarter right from the get go. Now, seeing how bad the tune really was, maybe it's actually faster than that, maybe it's not. Doesn't matter to me, it wasn't built to be the fastest 5.0 around. It was built to make me smile when I drive it.

downtime! 08-31-2013 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 47746)
We just finished a procharger install. P1 10 lbs, headers, and our custom tune it made 594 473 in todays 100* heat and 20% humidity.. My personal preference

I've always liked Procharger when it comes to centri's. I've had very good luck with them on both 2V and 3V cars, I can only imagine a well tuned 5.0 with one would be a lot of fun!

Grandpa 08-31-2013 02:22 PM

I wouldnt put a P1SC on my car if it were free. Those head units are absolute garbage.

BLK2012GT 08-31-2013 02:46 PM

I still want a whipple.

downtime! 08-31-2013 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 47752)
I wouldnt put a P1SC on my car if it were free. Those head units are absolute garbage.

I had one on a 2V car, my '03 GT. It made 475 to the wheels in the end, not bad at all. Very similar results with the 3V car, but we upgraded to the D1 shortly after installing.

blownaltered 08-31-2013 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 47752)
I wouldnt put a P1SC on my car if it were free. Those head units are absolute garbage.

I represent this remark. If your going centri I love a paxton

TrueStreetTim 08-31-2013 05:23 PM

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it doesn't matter how bad you think something sucks, someone has figured out how to make it fast.
Nice!

Grandpa 08-31-2013 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 47754)
I still want a whipple.

Do it!! That Whipple whine is so intoxicating!

Grandpa 08-31-2013 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 47757)
I represent this remark. If your going centri I love a paxton

Agreed. Paxton has been around since the early 60's in the performance market. Prochargers kits just aren't thought through very well.

BLK2012GT 08-31-2013 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 47764)
Do it!! That Whipple whine is so intoxicating!

I need to find out if they finally came out with a 4.5l for the coyote.


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