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re-rx7 12-23-2013 02:27 PM

Choosing gear ratio.
 
As it sits right now I have 3:31's but with the upgraded 20's It has fallen some. Judging by the Tire size calculator Im ruunng somehwere around 3:19's or so. I originally wanted 3:55's so with this difference Im gonna go 3:73's and hopeflly my ratio will end up somewhere in the 3:60's.

Any input on this? Im also buying OEM Ford gears and not Ford Racing as they are made by a different company. I can get gears and bearing brand new from dealer for $152.00.

03MachMe 12-23-2013 02:31 PM

Depends on your goal for the car. strip? autox? road race? roll race? I have 3.31 but with the shorter tires I will be running with my track wheels it ups my gear ratio right where I want it so I will likely not change mine.

re-rx7 12-23-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 59507)
Depends on your goal for the car. strip? autox? road race? roll race? I have 3.31 but with the shorter tires I will be running with my track wheels it ups my gear ratio right where I want it so I will likely not change mine.

Mexico mostly with very little Drag time. 3:19 is extrememly high and i hate it.

03MachMe 12-23-2013 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 59508)
Mexico mostly with very little Drag time. 3:19 is extrememly high and i hate it.

then I would go with 3.73 if you plan to keep those wheels

re-rx7 12-23-2013 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 59509)
then I would go with 3.73 if you plan to keep those wheels

I do for the forseeable future. Car takes awhile to climb the RPM band now. Its noticable.

Darkhelmet22 12-23-2013 03:19 PM

4.10s!

re-rx7 12-23-2013 03:47 PM

Jesus Christ!!!

Darkhelmet22 12-23-2013 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 59514)
Jesus Christ!!!

No that's 4.30s. LOL

re-rx7 12-23-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkhelmet22 (Post 59526)
No that's 4.30s. LOL

LOL I think 3:73 is more then enough.

Darkhelmet22 12-23-2013 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 59528)
LOL I think 3:73 is more then enough.

I had 4.10s in my 5spd GT and they were awesome.

rlhay2 12-23-2013 06:13 PM

If your long term plans include a turbo(s), keep the 3.31s.
Otherwise, 3.73 is a good street, strip, 1/4 choice.

re-rx7 12-23-2013 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by rlhay2 (Post 59534)
If your long term plans include a turbo(s), keep the 3.31s.
Otherwise, 3.73 is a good street, strip, 1/4 choice.

No F/I. Maybe juice later on but mostly motor.

Futwa 12-23-2013 11:49 PM

I'm in the same boat as you with 20's and 3.31's and yea....it take a while to climb. I'll be getting 3.73's here in the next month or two. If I get mine done before you I'll let you know how it is.

DirtyD 12-24-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Futwa (Post 59554)
I'm in the same boat as you with 20's and 3.31's and yea....it take a while to climb. I'll be getting 3.73's here in the next month or two. If I get mine done before you I'll let you know how it is.

Just add boost, that will help it climb faster. Lol

DirtyD 12-24-2013 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Darkhelmet22 (Post 59530)
I had 4.10s in my 5spd GT and they were awesome.

That 3650 also had much different gear ratios.

03MachMe 12-24-2013 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 59556)
That 3650 also had much different gear ratios.

Yep I had 4.10 in my Mach and they were perfect but would be way too much gear in a 5.0 unless all you care about is 1/8th mile race

Dominic Toretto 12-27-2013 12:32 PM

My car has a 3.15 rear end. Came with the gay 18s with 235/45/18s. I am lowered an inch with 285/35/19s, anyone know how that would effect my gear ratio?

-Alex

my95z28 12-27-2013 02:02 PM

Really good tire size calculator at this website. http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Gives you a visual of how the tires are sized differently, and a percentage of how far off your tires are. Yours are only 2%, so not that big of a drifference. You'll actually be going 2% faster than what your speedometer says, but thats such a small difference it will never matter.

DirtyD 12-27-2013 03:34 PM

Alex, it's probably now around a 3.13-3.14 effective ratio.

Dominic Toretto 12-27-2013 03:49 PM

Ah thanks guys. I didn't think the change was too drastic. I noticed my speedo hasn't changed at all.

-Alex

DirtyD 12-27-2013 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 59655)
Ah thanks guys. I didn't think the change was too drastic. I noticed my speedo hasn't changed at all.

-Alex


Are your new wheels slightly shorter or taller than the old wheels?

If shorter, it's a slightly shorter effective ratio. If taller, it's a slightly taller effective ratio.

Dominic Toretto 12-27-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 59658)
Are your new wheels slightly shorter or taller than the old wheels?

If shorter, it's a slightly shorter effective ratio. If taller, it's a slightly taller effective ratio.

Posted this above.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 59650)
My car has a 3.15 rear end. Came with the gay 18s with 235/45/18s. I am lowered an inch with 285/35/19s, anyone know how that would effect my gear ratio?

-Alex


Bacadiesel 12-27-2013 09:22 PM

http://www.tacomaworld.com/forum/tirecalc.php

I like this tire calculator cuz it shows pics

Bacadiesel 12-27-2013 09:43 PM

Alex , your new wheel and tire combo is 0.53 inches taller

Darkhelmet22 12-27-2013 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 59556)
That 3650 also had much different gear ratios.

No mine was a T45 :party36:

DirtyD 12-28-2013 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 59662)
Posted this above.


Missed that. I didn't realize the 18s came with such short tires.

Dominic Toretto 12-28-2013 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 59673)
Missed that. I didn't realize the 18s came with such short tires.

Haha, thanks for second guessing, I had to check again. They were 235/50/18s stock.

-Alex

DirtyD 12-28-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 59680)
Haha, thanks for second guessing, I had to check again. They were 235/50/18s stock.



-Alex


That's what I was thinking. These cars come with at least 27" wheel/tire combos.

Your rear wheel is now about 1/4" shorter than stock, so your effective ratio when a little shorter to probably a 3.16. Lol

Dominic Toretto 12-28-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 59686)
That's what I was thinking. These cars come with at least 27" wheel/tire combos.

Your rear wheel is now about 1/4" shorter than stock, so your effective ratio when a little shorter to probably a 3.16. Lol

So now I should run 9s all day!

-Alex

re-rx7 12-28-2013 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 59688)
So now I should run 9s all day!

-Alex

This.:mexsmoke:

Dan12GT 12-29-2013 12:29 AM

Oh ya I went from 27.68 on stock 19s to 27.58 with the 20s on a slightly shorter tire. Heck ya I'm running like 3:31.5s now! On a serious note I'm definitely looking at doing 3:73s


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