Yellow Foglights
 

Now that my GTCS lower front fascia has arrived, I am anxious about the best way to go about having yellow lights. I've never installed HIDs so that would be new to me. I have seen some people that actually tint the lenses. What do you guys suggest?

-Alex

Are you talking about tinting the fog lights in the grill? I assume so since tinting the lens of the tiny projector would be difficult.

If you are going to use the fog lights in actual fog, get some 3000K HIDs, reputable brand/company, and then you can convert the grill lights to additional driving lights oir delete them all together.

HIDs aren't that bad of an install. Can easily be done in about 45 minutes taking your time.

I've had pretty good luck with after market hid kits. I usually do the relay harness so that it draws from the battery (ballast start up draws more than halogen and I feel more comfortable with a fused relay harness). The harness also resolves most flickering issues especially with cars that have their lowbeams that run at a percentage of full power as drl's, but fogs shouldn't be an issue. You can get 3000k that are supposedly golden yellow but I have never ran that temp. I have only done 4300k and 8000k (when I was a high school kid and only cared about looks instead of light output, lol). Go to ddm tuning they have cheap kits that offer a lifetime warranty. Some people say they're shit because they are made overseas (then again what isn't these days?) and they assume the cheap price automatically means low quality. I've had several ddm kits and friends with them and we never had any issues.

DDM can be hit or miss as far as quality, bulb matching colors, and ballast life. I've been there for 2 of those. hey are a great company, but I'd still not deal with it to begin with.

3000K will be the best color choice to use in actual fog, which 4500K-5000K will be an excellent choice to provide additional, short range driving lights.

I think that would look best. 4300k and the shades near that temp look the best IMO, especially behind projectors.

I am talking about possibly tinting the foglights that are integrated into the GTCS fascia. I do not plan to keep the stock foglights in place and will just get an aftermarket grill in place of those.

Thanks. What's "ddm?" I prefer yellow as the color for fogs as it provides (to me) the best contrast to the high beam... and just look cool to me lol.

-Alex

I just bought a car with HID's from the factory... problem solved. lol

:snoopfacepalm: The stock foglights for your car are not HIDs they are LEDs.

-Alex

I'm sort of confused... If you're talking about tinting projector fogs like the ones pictured below I don't think it's possible (maybe I'm wrong) unless you go with 3000k HID's or aftermarket projectors that may have a yellow lens.

http://0.tqn.com/d/mustangs/1/0/6/k/-/-/DSC_0259.jpg

DDMtuning.com is the site. Like I said, they have mixed reviews but I have had good luck with them but Derek has had different results. I don't know of any other brands that are "Reputable" per se because technically retrofitting HID's in housings designed for halogen bulbs is illegal. Most of the companies are from overseas so it would be best to just look for reviews on forums. I don't think Philips or Osram/Sylvania makes kits (which would be ideal since they are the leaders in HID lighting and are used as OE on most vehicles) although I think some companies make kits and slap their name on the box.

4700K is the absolute best color for a projector housing setup. The colorshift at that point is amazing, and the light output is about as close to optimal as you will get.

I don't think tinting the projectors would be a good idea. Since it's not an open reflective housing, the vinyl could disrupt the pattern of the light through the lens. I would stick to getting the colored HID setup you want.


DDM Tuning is a company that came around mainly from BMW aftermarket exterior parts that now sells a relatively inexpensive HID setup.

LOL. Jeremy, we are talking about the foglights, not the headlights.

:lol:

Yes I was considering having those lenses tinted, if at all possible. Was basically just trying to get an idea from you all if it was possible as an alternative to retrofitting HIDs.

-Alex

Hell i dunno what they are. I dont really care as long as i dont have to replace one of those expensive things. Lol

Lol. Those fogs will outlast the car. I love where LED technology has gone over the past few years. I can't wait until LED headlights are more of a common option like what comes on the new Acuras.

www.TheRetrofitSource.com is by far the most reputable company out there that has PNP HID components. But they are no where near as cheap as DDM (around $200-$250 for ballasts and bulbs, but they are worth it). StandMods and another site I can't remember are also good.

Also, when you say retrofitting, you mean just "plug 'n play". Retrofitting is cutting up a pair of headlights and putting a projector housing in place of the reflector bowl.

Still wish they had chosen a better color LED. 5700K is stupid for a fog light to actually be useful. 4500K would've been much better...or even 5000K.

I'm using 3k fogs and 4300k headlights. I've always used the 3k fogs in my cars. It stands out in the rain and shitty weather so peeps don't hit you.

Which is exactly what is supposed to happen.

Not necessarily. Retrofitting can be adding anything that wasn't original equipment, but yes, I am talking about the "plug 'n play" style kits.

This is now making me want to buy the v6 fogs and throw 3000k's in them.

Yes sorry, I mean plug-n-play :).

-Alex

I don't know the temperature for each color. Is 3000k yellow?

-Alex

Yep. 3000k is yellow, 4300k is pure white (hint of yellow), 6000k is pure white (hint of blue), 8000K is blue, anything above 8000k is crap IMO because the bluer the light, the more the light scatters especially on an asphalt road or when it rains which makes 8000k+ dimmer than halogen. Stock headlamp color is typically 4300k. As Derek said before, some companies have trouble matching bulb color even when it's supposed to be the same color temp. Most of the aftermarket companies bulb colors vary from company to company even if they are both the same color temp (kelvin or just K).

That's my plan if I ever get off my lazy ass and hook up my fog lights. Maybe this weekend I will finally do that.


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Yeah, I remember on another post you were talking about the legality issues of having four auxiliary lamps on. If I do it I want to somehow run the two sets of fogs independently while maintaining a factory looking switch or running a hidden switch somewhere so I can run them on dark country roads.

Are you planning to delete the upper foglights?

-Alex

After thinking about it more, I don't want to have all 6 on at once. The main point of me doing that would be for the purpose of pictures only. Haha. Having yellow fogs will throw it off having the other 2 lights as blue.

Nope. Keeping those to run with my DRLs at all times.


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What type of bulb is the stock foglight for the for the GTCS? I can't tell by looking.

I'm on this site and can't tell which application I would choose.

http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=32

-Alex

So you plan to run a relay to the led fogs and wire them to the led strip drl in the headlamps and then run the v6 fogs to the fog switch?

Sylvania has a fitment guide just look up a 2012 GT/CS.

Bulbs are H1 if I recall correctly. Or H11.

Pretty much. But I will have everything related together so when I do turn on my lower fogs they grill fogs will shut off.



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I love my 3k HID fogs/7k combo

7000K?!?!


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7k Jesus you can't see shit with 6k lol!! The strain on your eyes has to hurt like hell!

That's why I always went with 4300k, that greenish blue hue on everything got old with the 8000k.

Anything higher than 6000k is pointless.

Even then 6000k can be on the boundaries.

50W 6000K is another story.


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I went 4300 as well. Just a bit brighter then OEM. The yellow fogs really helped this morning. People sem to think the higher the Kelvin the brighter the light. SHIT.

That's because they are uneducated on the subject and shops will do anything to sell that crap. I wish manufacturers would stop making anything above 6000K. But obviously that won't happen.

The factory lights on the 2013 are something like 4200K-4300K, I think. A good upgrade would be to find some 4500K-5000K bulbs. I know there is a guy on SVTP that put 5000K DDM bulbs in his car, but I never saw a picture. What sucks is that not many people make D3S bulbs in other colors...


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Most OEM is 4300k. I tried 5k in my Is300 one time and hated it. I was always getting high beamed. LOL I like it to keep it simple and clean. The only real reason I started using yellow fogs was because the Is300 came with them from the factory. Ihate having that those cars behind me or oncoming. Cant see shit and I know they cant either.

Exactly. Also the human eye is more sensitive to green or violet than yellow/white. The horrible glare from those bluish bulbs gives people the misconception that they're brighter than halogen when in reality they're not and you're screwed on a rainy night going down a dark road.

I bought some HID's from a shop for my gf's MS3 and he tld me they were 4300k. Got home threw them in and those bitches looked like 6-8k! I figured id take them back the next week and swap them. Just so happened it rained before I could get them back. She drove my car everday it rained.:rotflmao: