Ill be at the dyno day, come say hi.

Well I missed the Facebook post about the HPP event. Probably because I don't spend much time on FB. Just a few minutes every morning while dropping a deuce...if I'm not using my phone for some other form of entertainment. Would have to scroll down through 2 hundred "spotted" and TS hate posts to see it.

Would have been nice if someone posted something here as well. Manny would have had a lot more people show up.

If I end up coming I will

That never happened because Jeff said so. They are perfect and their farts smell like cotton candy. That is why Jeff is so far up Manny's ass :Plugged:

LOL! Well, like I said, something will happen there too and they will move on to the next shop to jump on their nuts.

It's like that with every shop. There are cars at gearheads that are from HPP and the customer wasn't happy. Jeff's car went to HPP from TS because he wasn't happy. Foof took his car from HPP to TS because he wasn't happy. Most of Gearheads customers go everywhere else because they aren't happy. It's how it works, I have been watching this cycle for over a decade. You guys think this is something new, but its not. There becomes a point were you just have to live with it and move on.

Exactly! It's the risk you take when modding your car. Don't like the BS? Leave your car the fuck alone or accept shit is gonna happen.

Well on your second paragraph I agree to a point. I understand that when you go beyond the boundaries of a engine then yes shit will fuck up. But when you pay A LOT of money to a shop that supposedly said these parts can handle it and they can install everything correctly and tune it correctly and blew up engines after engines. You can only blame yourself so much until you point your fingers at the shop you are paying.

Your CD is skipping again...

Bitch I don't praise anyone, I've learned my lesson from that.

I've been doing this '97 so I know how it is too. So don't think you're the only old schooler here. I remember when it was lone star performance, USA motorsports, and Dallas mustang where the big 3 mustang shops.

Ive had good luck with HPP, True ST, 21st, and Brooks when he was open... only shop I hate is DMP because the owner is a mother fucken asshole. I hope he gets run over by a bus some day.

Damn this is the 4th forum I see hate for TS lol

Its probably the same people too. Lol. The haters arent affecting anything at TS. They are busier than ever and just moved to an even bigger shop. So all of the nonsense is for nothing.

Old School:

My first mod was flipping the lid of my air cleaner upside down. First work I did on a mustang was helping a friend install a 4 barrel carburetor. All we had was our dads tools, a case of beer and very little direction. We didn't have a performance shop per-say. Couldn't tell how much HP we actually had either.

I had to take a 20 year hiatus from car stuff to raise a family so I'm new to all the performance shop hoopla so I really don't understand all the 'Brand Loyalty' and all the bickering about which shop blows less engines.

I understand that the parts, labor, and engine are super expensive but that's all part of the risk/reward. The one question that I have is this: Do these shops make you sign a waiver or a release before these big jobs that free them from any liability? If not, then why aren't they getting sued when they fuck up?

I, personally, wouldn't take that much of a risk with my car. I know folks that do. I got a co-worker that sinks more money in his corvette than my car is worth and he is tight with almost all the DFW shops but from what I understand from him is that he is taking all the risk whether his shit blows up on the track or on the dyno.

If I'm going to sink 10-20K or more into a project I'd rather put it into a classic. But that's just me.