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blownaltered 04-01-2013 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 24318)
Just found this...
-347 Long Block
Forged 4140 crank
Forged Eagle H-beam rods
Forged JE flat top pistons
New bearings
Cometic head gaskets
AFR 185 heads (ported)
New oil pump
SFI balancer
Stock block (comes with oil pan, timing cover, water pump, and EFI Spyder intake with fuel rails)
-Complete $2800

Where I might be interested as well.

blownaltered 04-01-2013 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke (Post 24318)
Just found this...
-347 Long Block
Forged 4140 crank
Forged Eagle H-beam rods
Forged JE flat top pistons
New bearings
Cometic head gaskets
AFR 185 heads (ported)
New oil pump
SFI balancer
Stock block (comes with oil pan, timing cover, water pump, and EFI Spyder intake with fuel rails)
-Complete $2800

Where I might be interested as well.

Never mind just read more and will not work for me.

Luke 04-01-2013 01:40 PM

Clifton on DFWM, add is about a month and a half old but he might have it still. I was considering it too but I want a converter for the '13 and need to tone down the spending.

http://dfwmustangs.net/class/showpro...-sale-21&cat=9

OG Fox 04-01-2013 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 24317)
For the price I'd go with a 351w based motor and a D block (very cheap). Now do you want something very streetable or a 500+hp N/A big cam weekend toy. I'm partial to the sound of a big cam but for driveability you could easily go with a more mild build and a supercharger.

something streetable, but yeah i love big cams too. I wanna be able to cruise around town.

Mike 04-01-2013 01:48 PM

Here's a long block one of my buddies has for sale right now.

74 block
SRP pistons, hellfire rings
I beam rods
Forged crank
Main girdle
Canton oil pan
Professional products dampner
Procomp electric water pump
AFR 205 heads
Custom solid roller cam.
Comp solid roller lifters
Chromoly pushrods
Comp pro gold 1.6 rockers

$4500 obo

There are only three passes on everything since being freshened.

Luke 04-01-2013 01:49 PM

I traded a pretty clean 351w hatchback with a big cam and a C4 for a camper (I'm a dumbass) a few months back and it did great around town. The highway at over 3000 RPM's wasn't so much fun.

OG Fox 04-01-2013 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 24329)
Here's a long block one of my buddies has for sale right now.

74 block
SRP pistons, hellfire rings
I beam rods
Forged crank
Main girdle
Canton oil pan
Professional products dampner
Procomp electric water pump
AFR 205 heads
Custom solid roller cam.
Comp solid roller lifters
Chromoly pushrods
Comp pro gold 1.6 rockers

$4500 obo

There are only three passes on everything since being freshened.

im pretty clueless to what all that stuff is.

blownaltered 04-01-2013 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 24352)
im pretty clueless to what all that stuff is.

by the looks of it, its not a bad setup. The main question I would have on that is cam specs and what it the compression of the motor. I will assume since he is saying its a 351 windsor based block manufactured in 74. Its not a dart or R block, but the 351 blocks were better than the 302 blocks. Strokd needs to chime in on this, Ive never ran a stock 351 block. Every 351 block I ever had was an R block.

Also I would want to know what the bore is and if it a stock stroke on the crank.

OG Fox 04-01-2013 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 24355)
by the looks of it, its not a bad setup. The main question I would have on that is cam specs and what it the compression of the motor. I will assume since he is saying its a 351 windsor based block manufactured in 74. Its not a dart or R block, but the 351 blocks were better than the 302 blocks. Strokd needs to chime in on this, Ive never ran a stock 351 block. Every 351 block I ever had was an R block.

Also I would want to know what the bore is and if it a stock stroke on the crank.

now thats english i understand.

Mike 04-01-2013 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 24352)
im pretty clueless to what all that stuff is.

Quote:

Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 24355)
by the looks of it, its not a bad setup. The main question I would have on that is cam specs and what it the compression of the motor. I will assume since he is saying its a 351 windsor based block manufactured in 74. Its not a dart or R block, but the 351 blocks were better than the 302 blocks. Strokd needs to chime in on this, Ive never ran a stock 351 block. Every 351 block I ever had was an R block.

Also I would want to know what the bore is and if it a stock stroke on the crank.

That motor is a stock 1974 block, I'm sure someone else will confirm the numbers, but they are typically good to about 800-850 HP.
I can't help with questions about the cam specs or compression right this second.

STROKD 04-01-2013 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike (Post 24367)
That motor is a stock 1974 block, I'm sure someone else will confirm the numbers, but they are typically good to about 800-850 HP.
I can't help with questions about the cam specs or compression right this second.

74 is a decent year, with stock 2 bolt mains its safe to about 600-650bhp... Or 500ish rw. I beam rods are cheap, SRP pistons are off the shelf non custom replacements made by JE (decent). I think the price is fair because of the heads... What compression and cubic inch is it?

OG Fox 04-02-2013 01:22 AM

STOP HIJACKING MY THREAD.

lets stay on topic. how hard would it to get 400 wheel horsepower out of a 302.? lets say i found an 91 in the graveyard somewhere. what would the plan be? is that something i can keep around 5k for just the motor.

Grandpa 04-02-2013 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 24427)
STOP HIJACKING MY THREAD.

lets stay on topic. how hard would it to get 400 wheel horsepower out of a 302.? lets say i found an 91 in the graveyard somewhere. what would the plan be? is that something i can keep around 5k for just the motor.

Sorry, Dale. Cleaned up the thread for ya.

Your typical heads/cam/intake/carb 302's will make 280-310rw. For 400rw NA you will need to build a 351 based stroker with good heads, cam/intake/carb.

blownaltered 04-02-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 24427)
STOP HIJACKING MY THREAD.

lets stay on topic. how hard would it to get 400 wheel horsepower out of a 302.? lets say i found an 91 in the graveyard somewhere. what would the plan be? is that something i can keep around 5k for just the motor.

347 with heads, cam, intake, exhaust will be close. You will not make it with a 302 without a power adder. Yes it can be done for 5k if you do your own work and buy a few things used.

STROKD 04-02-2013 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 24427)
STOP HIJACKING MY THREAD.

lets stay on topic. how hard would it to get 400 wheel horsepower out of a 302.? lets say i found an 91 in the graveyard somewhere. what would the plan be? is that something i can keep around 5k for just the motor.

Not happening. Sorry, just being honest.


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