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Junkie 09-25-2013 11:49 PM

Calling out the built/nitrous stang
 
I don't think I remember his SN. Blackstang or something maybe? Big bad NA combo with a 300 shot.

Heads up
1/4 or 1/8

My mild Viper vs your built stang. I'll be on an 18" drag radial with factory wheels up front.

Zeek 09-25-2013 11:58 PM

You know he ran like a 25 something in the 1/4 right?

Slow Five-O 09-26-2013 12:04 AM

Might be a better race for your cummins

Doug 09-26-2013 12:10 AM

Lol. That's Jeff. Not sure he's even used the nitrous yet.

Grandpa 09-26-2013 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 51392)
Lol. That's Jeff. Not sure he's even used the nitrous yet.

I dont think so either. He has been really busy as of late. He still needs seat time in the car and hasnt even made a nitrous hit in it. Last i spoke to him about it he was talking about boosting it instead.

Stangmaster281 09-26-2013 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51393)
I dont think so either. He has been really busy as of late. He still needs seat time in the car and hasnt even made a nitrous hit in it. Last i spoke to him about it he was talking about boosting it instead.

I'm sorry I just have to ask this question, but....why didn't he do that in the first place?

Doug 09-26-2013 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51393)
I dont think so either. He has been really busy as of late. He still needs seat time in the car and hasnt even made a nitrous hit in it. Last i spoke to him about it he was talking aboit boosting it instead.

Oh man.. I hope he hits the nitrous at least once.

Grandpa 09-26-2013 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Stangmaster281 (Post 51394)
I'm sorry I just have to ask this question, but....why didn't he do that in the first place?

Sometimes people just change their minds about what they want. I don't blame him really. Boosted set ups are less hassle, set it and forget it. Nitrous systems are more involved with constant monitoring and refilling bottles. I don't blame him at all really.

Junkie 09-26-2013 10:31 AM

The car on nitrous should be fast! I hadn't seen him mention it recently so assumed he was learning to race the car. Motor to motor I think I would cover him, but on spray he can outrun me.

Grandpa 09-26-2013 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 51403)
The car on nitrous should be fast! I hadn't seen him mention it recently so assumed he was learning to race the car. Motor to motor I think I would cover him, but on spray he can outrun me.

He's got other things going on, new baby/baby mama, bowling etc. I think at this point he's just content with having the car back in his garage being able to drive it after being in and out of the shop for so long.

Bearded Banger 09-26-2013 10:46 AM

I think after his massive amounts of shit talking, not producing, technical issues with the car that had to be sorted out, he may have learned a lesson and is laying low.

TrueStreetTim 09-26-2013 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Doug (Post 51395)
Oh man.. I hope he hits the nitrous at least once.

This.

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51400)
Sometimes people just change their minds about what they want. I don't blame him really. Boosted set ups are less hassle, set it and forget it. Nitrous systems are more involved with constant monitoring and refilling bottles. I don't blame him at all really.

This. His goals were definitely different before baby #3 became a factor.

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 51403)
The car on nitrous should be fast! I hadn't seen him mention it recently so assumed he was learning to race the car. Motor to motor I think I would cover him, but on spray he can outrun me.

And this!

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I think after his massive amounts of shit talking, not producing, technical issues with the car that had to be sorted out, he may have learned a lesson and is laying low.
My beard may have surpassed yours!

DirtyD 09-26-2013 10:49 AM

I think he has been humbled down a little since all that.

I know he was talking about "what if Whipple came out with a 4.5L s/c for the 5.0?" And then they did...

Junkie 09-26-2013 10:52 AM

Twins! Fuck those giant PD blower heat pumps.

TrueStreetTim 09-26-2013 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 51409)
Twins! Fuck those giant PD blower heat pumps.

:patriot:

Grandpa 09-26-2013 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 51409)
Twins! Fuck those giant PD blower heat pumps.

I do believe the V has run some pretty good times on your PD blower. Don't change your tune (see what I did there? lol) now that you have gone twins on the V.

Junkie 09-26-2013 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51411)
I do believe the V has run some pretty good times on your PD blower. Don't change your tune (see what I did there? lol) now that you have gone twins on the V.

Notice the entire time I owned it with the PD blower I was very open about the car needing nitrous to be fun....

Same thing I said about the Eaton setups on Cobras. A PD blower + dope is fun, a PD blower alone fucking sucks dick

BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 12:09 PM

Not using the nitrous at the track till I get some slicks. But I have used it on the road a few times but anything under 60 it just melts the tires.

BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearded Banger (Post 51405)
I think after his massive amounts of shit talking, not producing, technical issues with the car that had to be sorted out, he may have learned a lesson and is laying low.

Psssh. Hey when are you going to show off your beast at the track?

Bearded Banger 09-26-2013 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 51420)
Psssh. Hey when are you going to show off your beast at the track?

My car is slow. No need to.

BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearded Banger (Post 51422)
My car is slow. No need to.

Lol

GunsUp 09-26-2013 12:19 PM

I like the direction this is heading

BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 51387)
You know he ran like a 25 something in the 1/4 right?

You know that wasn't the only pass of the night?

BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearded Banger (Post 51422)
My car is slow. No need to.

And also that's bullshit cause you're number one on the power adder list.

Bearded Banger 09-26-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 51427)
And also that's bullshit cause you're number one on the power adder list.

Not my doing. Nor my wish. I prefer not to be in the light.

Bearded Banger 09-26-2013 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 51427)
And also that's bullshit cause you're number one on the power adder list.

You can have the spot

Junkie 09-26-2013 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 51419)
Not using the nitrous at the track till I get some slicks. But I have used it on the road a few times but anything under 60 it just melts the tires.

Why not buy a set of good radials or tires? Will a 15" wheel fit on the car?

DirtyD 09-26-2013 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 51431)
Why not buy a set of good radials or tires? Will a 15" wheel fit on the car?

These cars work best with slicks at the track, especially at his power level. DRs won't do enough for him.

GunsUp 09-26-2013 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 51432)
These cars work best with slicks at the track, especially at his power level. DRs won't do enough for him.

All cars work better with slicks at the track...:console:

Grandpa 09-26-2013 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 51432)
These cars work best with slicks at the track, especially at his power level. DRs won't do enough for him.

You realize that statement is complete nonsense, right?

DirtyD 09-26-2013 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GunsUp (Post 51434)
All cars work better with slicks at the track...:console:

Obviously. I'm speaking for stick cars. Didn't exactly mean 5.0s.

Depending on the power level. IIRC, wbt broke the rear end in one of his cars doing a hard launch in an auto at the track, on slicks. You need to beef the hell out of everything in the driveline to do slicks on an auto in order to do a full hard hit at higher power levels.

DirtyD 09-26-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51435)
You realize that statement is complete nonsense, right?

See above.

Every here has said he needs slicks to get full potential at the track because the DRs aren't working.

Grandpa 09-26-2013 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 51432)
These cars work best with slicks at the track, especially at his power level. DRs won't do enough for him.

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 51437)
See above.

Every here has said he needs slicks to get full potential at the track because the DRs aren't working.

The DR's aren't working because of the tires. It's user error and not getting the suspension dialed in properly yet.

There is a whole class of cars (275 class) that manage to put well over 1100hp to the tires on a 275 radial dipping into the high 4 second 1/8th mile times.

Slicks are NOT needed to go fast. I've said it a million times, it's about a proper set up.

Grandpa 09-26-2013 01:05 PM

And before you say it, to say it's "these" cars is nonsense. Beefcake runs the 275 class, on E85 making over 1000rw and runs great numbers.



BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51438)
The DR's aren't working because of the tires. It's user error and not getting the suspension dialed in properly yet.

There is a whole class of cars (275 class) that manage to put well over 1100hp to the tires on a 275 radial dipping into the high 4 second 1/8th mile times.

Slicks are NOT needed to go fast. I've said it a million times, it's about a proper set up.

Those guys in the 275 class are driving manuals at that power level? I can probably cut 1.7-1.9 with better shocks and struts with DR but with slicks I can cut 1.3-1.5 which is a big difference.

BLK2012GT 09-26-2013 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51439)
And before you say it, to say it's "these" cars is nonsense. Beefcake runs the 275 class, on E85 making over 1000rw and runs great numbers.



Beefcake is auto.

DirtyD 09-26-2013 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51438)
The DR's aren't working because of the tires. It's user error and not getting the suspension dialed in properly yet.

There is a whole class of cars (275 class) that manage to put well over 1100hp to the tires on a 275 radial dipping into the high 4 second 1/8th mile times.

Slicks are NOT needed to go fast. I've said it a million times, it's about a proper set up.

You act like I don't know this, and I've never heard of the 275 class. Lord. Unless you have the resources and want to install a fully track capable suspension on the car, slicks are the easier route to go. Jeff wants his car to be both street and strip, street majority. Using slicks at the track would eliminate a lot of the suspension hassle from the equation to give him a quick, effective solution to hooking at the track. His car is not a purpose built race car that he wants to run 8s in every weekend. Therefore doing a full suspension for him outside of shocks/struts and springs would be a waste of money on his end.

There are many routes you can go for a "proper" setup.

DirtyD 09-26-2013 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 51439)
And before you say it, to say it's "these" cars is nonsense. Beefcake runs the 275 class, on E85 making over 1000rw and runs great numbers.



God, Steve, can you fucking read? I said I was speaking for stick cars, not 5.0s. I didn't choose the right word, but now you have gone into kill mode, so there is no hope for me.

Beefcake runs an auto.

All of those 275 guys run glides, which are basically autos. You know exactly why too.

Grandpa 09-26-2013 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 51442)
Beefcake is auto.

Doesn't mean it can't be done. It's certainly easier to go with an auto, but it doesn't mean it can't be done rowing gears either. It's just harder to do needing a serious driving mod and stout driveline parts. Most people going that fast tend to go auto because it's so much easier to do. Point and shoot, takes the driver practically out of the equation. Junkie rows gears with a 6 speed well into the 8's. If he put an auto in it it would go EASY 7's.

All you need is some serious seat time and practice.

DirtyD 09-26-2013 01:14 PM

Also, to add, no where is any of my statements did I say that DRs won't work. I simply said they won't do enough for him. Obviously he needs to upgrade many things in order to make DRs work to his advantage, where as slicks take a lot out of the equation.


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