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KungFuHamster 07-17-2013 03:37 PM

400 ft lb at N/A
 
I was looking at some car magazines the other day and noticed that a lot of the new 5.0's, even with modifications don't break 400 ft lb of tq at the tire. Then I started looking at peoples signatures, and the same seems to be true. Not saying there are none, but it doesn't seem to be common.

I'm talking about a basic bolt on car, also. Headers, CAI, tune, etc.

I think the tune is where the main difference is.

My car put down 404 ft lb at True Street's dyno then almost cracked it on Brooks' Dyno with 399 ft lb.

Is this even worth discussing? Or am I just way off base and out of touch with reality.

Midnight11 07-17-2013 03:38 PM

Most have the boss intake on that's why

BLK2012GT 07-17-2013 03:44 PM

Boss intake kills the tq. You can do an aftermarket TB and porting of the boss intake runners to pick the tq loss back up.

KungFuHamster 07-17-2013 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 40807)
Most have the boss intake on that's why

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 40808)
Boss intake kills the tq. You can do an aftermarket TB and porting of the boss intake runners to pick the tq loss back up.

and that's what i figured was the culprit.

but now lets look at this, and Midnight11 I will use your car for comparison as you have all your mods and hp/tq numbers in your sig.

Your car (assuming the numbers are current) makes 19 more peak hp than my car, but my car makes 28 more peak tq.

Our cars are daily driven street cars, not race cars. I would think as heavy as our cars are that torque would be sought after.

I don't post on here much so I don't know how sensitive folks are, so let me re-iterate this is not an attack on Midnight11's car, I was just using it for illustration purposes.

BLK2012GT 07-17-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by KungFuHamster (Post 40810)
and that's what i figured was the culprit.

but now lets look at this, and Midnight11 I will use your car for comparison as you have all your mods and hp/tq numbers in your sig.

Your car (assuming the numbers are current) makes 19 more peak hp than my car, but my car makes 28 more peak tq.

Our cars are daily driven street cars, not race cars. I would think as heavy as our cars are that torque would be sought after.

I don't post on here much so I don't know how sensitive folks are, so let me re-iterate this is not an attack on Midnight11's car, I was just using it for illustration purposes.

Dude attack away. You can say it his car is a slow turd. Lol

But the gearing in the tranny makes up for that especially in first gear. When I did that I made almost the same numbers the car stilled launch pretty hard plus I was able to rev the engine 700 rpms higher for more horsepower where the stock manifold starts dropping off around 6800 rpms.

Midnight11 07-17-2013 04:22 PM

I don't daily my car and these cars are slow unless its boosted

Grandpa 07-17-2013 04:22 PM

My car with just a Lethal Hpipe, gt500's and a tune makes 412rw/416rwtq. Stock intake/airbox.

Grandpa 07-17-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 40819)
I don't daily my car and these cars are slow unless its boosted

Agreed.

BLK2012GT 07-17-2013 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 40819)
I don't daily my car and these cars are slow unless its boosted

Ok Steve. Smh

BLK2012GT 07-17-2013 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 40821)
Agreed.

Not this shit again.

Phuck Phace 07-17-2013 04:38 PM

I agree, even with nitrous and ported heads these cars move slow.

Phuck Phace 07-17-2013 04:39 PM

PS, Only the E85 cars are fast.

BLK2012GT 07-17-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Phuck Phace (Post 40827)
I agree, even with nitrous and ported heads these cars move slow.

Hell boosted cars don't move at all.

Grandpa 07-17-2013 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phuck Phace (Post 40827)
I agree, even with hypothetical nitrous and ported heads these cars move slow.

Fixed.


Jeff, we just have different opinions on what is fast. No need to troll with it.

BLK2012GT 07-17-2013 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 40831)
Fixed.


Jeff, we just have different opinions on what is fast. No need to troll with it.

Yea, cause you don't even own is consider fast. People with 70k dollars plus cars with 30k plus into it and you rode in them is fast. Man anything with 700 rwhp is fast.


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