Originally Posted by 46Tbird
Pff. Most of the LS1 cars that have cams, converters, and a tire still struggle to hang with an honest low-12 second Mustang on the street.
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Cam. Singular. And a converter/tire bolt on car will go low 12s. Throw a cam in there and you're talking 11s. But by then the rear usually breaks and they throw a 9" Ford rear in.
Originally Posted by re-rx7
When Ls guys say bolt-ons a cam is usually included. lol
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Negative, bolt on is anything external. A cammed car is called cam only, H/C is Heads/Cam and HCI is Heads/Cam/Intake. Just like KungFu said bolt on cars make 325-350 depending on auto vs manual and the dyno its on. Cam only are high 300 to mid 400 depending on how aggessive the cam is. What Ford guys seem to hear is a cam, but not pay attention to what cam. Comparing a 224/224 cammed car to a 231/234 car is like comparing a stock 5.0 to a stock 3v. Same thing goes with H/C, depends on how aggressive the cam is.
Originally Posted by KungFuHamster
most of your 01-02 LS1 cars see almost 300 to the tire stock. With bolt ons they can see over 350 to the tire easy. Now add that they weigh less than our cars and that closes the gap rather quickly.
If I had an LS1 car with a converter and a cam and I could barely hang with a low 12 sec car, I would burn my car.
True, most GM guys consider a cam a "bolt on". I believe if you swap heads, cam and intake that takes it from being a "bolt on car" to a "HCI" car.
Either way, LS1 cars have always been fast, and yes, I have experience with them.
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Finally someone that has a little knowledge on the opposition