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05-08-2013, 05:58 PM
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BAMA Ghost Cam Tune, GOOD OR BAD?
So i recently put the ghost cam tune on my car and i am curious if this has any negative effect on the engine? Of course the BAMA guys said that it doesnt but i have noticed a few things that have me concerned. One thing is that it will occasionally die at idle because it causes the rpm's to go so low to get that lope sound. I have also noticed that sometimes it doesnt make any type of "cam" sound and then i give it a rev and then it will kick in. Finally i have heard on a couple ocassions a kind of knocking sound, i think this is because it almost acts like it wants to stall out at idle. Just not sure if faking it just to get the sound i want is worth it. Maybe there is something i need to do to adjust for this but i dont know what that is.
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05-08-2013, 06:17 PM
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I would put back in the stock tune personally. If you are having drivability issues I would take it out.
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05-08-2013, 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by blownaltered
I would put back in the stock tune personally. If you are having drivability issues I would take it out.
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im not having drivability issues. They are all during idle and only happen every now and then. im just curious if the ghost cam causes any damage to the engine.
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05-08-2013, 06:21 PM
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I wouldn't put a Bama tune on my lawnmower. lol
In all seriousness, poor driveability, no performance gains, very poor gas mileage, cylinder wash. The lope goes away when you touch the pedal because the timing changes. I think it's a silly tune personally, it makes no sense to go out of your way to make your car drive like garbage, but to each to their own.
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05-08-2013, 06:29 PM
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It's only good if done right. Shaun at AED knows how to do them pretty well.
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05-09-2013, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by dark pony
it's only good if done right. Shaun at aed knows how to do them pretty well.
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05-09-2013, 09:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeremyd43
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never mind. found it.
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05-09-2013, 09:40 PM
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I thought the lopey idle comes from the intake and exhaust valves overlapping slightly on an aftermarket cam and in the ghost cam's case it's being done electronically.
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05-09-2013, 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMLOL
I thought the lopey idle comes from the intake and exhaust valves overlapping slightly on an aftermarket cam and in the ghost cam's case it's being done electronically.
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I believe that overlap is the LSA (lobe separation angle).
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05-08-2013, 06:43 PM
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From what I can see from the reading I found, there should be no damage to the engine since it's only causing more of a rich idle. Your stalling is from the missing data values that the aftermarket tuners did not have...
If you want to keep it, do like Pony said...get it done by someone that knows the ghost tunes very well up at AED
Last edited by Smurf50; 05-08-2013 at 06:52 PM.
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05-08-2013, 07:59 PM
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Bama isn't as awful as everyone makes them out to be. I was happy with their tune when i was just bolt on's. I've only seen one auto car run faster than me tune only and he was up north at the "fast tracks"
Have you data logged for bama yet? The issues you are having are common issues with the lope tunes, the tune still needs some final tweaks.
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05-08-2013, 08:11 PM
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BAMA Ghost Cam Tune, GOOD OR BAD?
Originally Posted by zemog255
Bama isn't as awful as everyone makes them out to be. I was happy with their tune when i was just bolt on's. I've only seen one auto car run faster than me tune only and he was up north at the "fast tracks"
Have you data logged for bama yet? The issues you are having are common issues with the lope tunes, the tune still needs some final tweaks.
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They aren't what they used to be before AM bought them...but there is better
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05-08-2013, 08:45 PM
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I bought their tune back in september.. I ran a 12.08@113 with just their 93 race tune and GT 500 mufflers. No track "tricks", full weight preimum brembo auto in 90ft DA. The shifting was crisp and fast. Around town no complaints everything was very responsive. I would rather have their trans tuning than what I have with my lund tune now. There's only so much you can get out of a tune on a stock car and mild bolt ons.
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05-09-2013, 12:26 AM
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BAMA Ghost Cam Tune, GOOD OR BAD?
Originally Posted by zemog255
I bought their tune back in september.. I ran a 12.08@113 with just their 93 race tune and GT 500 mufflers. No track "tricks", full weight preimum brembo auto in 90ft DA. The shifting was crisp and fast. Around town no complaints everything was very responsive. I would rather have their trans tuning than what I have with my lund tune now. There's only so much you can get out of a tune on a stock car and mild bolt ons.
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If you're looking for a good auto tune check out VMP-flawless shifting just right. I can take you for a ride if you want to check it out.
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05-09-2013, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by zemog255
I bought their tune back in september.. I ran a 12.08@113 with just their 93 race tune and GT 500 mufflers. No track "tricks", full weight preimum brembo auto in 90ft DA. The shifting was crisp and fast. Around town no complaints everything was very responsive. I would rather have their trans tuning than what I have with my lund tune now. There's only so much you can get out of a tune on a stock car and mild bolt ons.
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I also like my bama tune. I run the 91 performance tune most of the time.
Dnt feel much difference in the 93 but, I'm prolly used to it lol.
Originally Posted by Steve
I wouldn't put a Bama tune on my lawnmower. lol
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Yea yea
Originally Posted by zemog255
Bama isn't as awful as everyone makes them out to be. I was happy with their tune when i was just bolt on's. I've only seen one auto car run faster than me tune only and he was up north at the "fast tracks"
Have you data logged for bama yet? The issues you are having are common issues with the lope tunes, the tune still needs some final tweaks.
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