Cobra Jet Intake and Super Cobra Jet Throttle Body has been ordered!

[Yagermeister]

I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel

[Rebelracer568]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel

Unless your a pro stock driver lol. But yes sir your are correct most cars in that range are autos. Seldon you see a car that quick that's a manual

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 Unless your a pro stock driver lol. But yes sir your are correct most cars in that range are autos. Seldon you see a car that quick that's a manual

Only cars I see that do that are MK4 Supras. Which is weird because Getrag made those transmissions as well as the manual transmissions in our cars but in the Supras they can support 1,000rwhp without mods. Plenty of those guys running tons of power without transmission or rear ends breaking.

-Alex

[DirtyD]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Only cars I see that do that are MK4 Supras. Which is weird because Getrag made those transmissions as well as the manual transmissions in our cars but in the Supras they can support 1,000rwhp without mods. Plenty of those guys running tons of power without transmission or rear ends breaking. -Alex

As said many times before, the remote mount shifter on these trans is the retarded part. I've not known a 1000whp Supra to know have a built or slightly built trans though. Just no way I can see a factory production trans holding up to that in any vehicle.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by DirtyD As said many times before, the remote mount shifter on these trans is the retarded part. I've not known a 1000whp Supra to know have a built or slightly built trans though. Just no way I can see a factory production trans holding up to that in any vehicle.

Will had the stock one in his car making well over 1200rw powershifting the fuck out of it and it lived for much longer than ANY Ford/GM manual he's ever had. No one has killed more transmissions than him. I think his last count was around 30 T56's alone.

[DirtyD]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 The v160 in the supra def holds a 1000whp untouched.

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT Will had the stock one in his car making well over 1200rw powershifting the fuck out of it and it lived for much longer than ANY Ford/GM manual he's ever had. No one has killed more transmissions than him. I think his last count was around 30 T56's alone.

Good to know. I didn't realize they were THAT strong. Very impressive.

Just proves that Getrag doesn't build entirely crap transmissions. Hell, it may have been a Ford design with this trans they had Getrag build, without any consultation work.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by DirtyD Good to know. I didn't realize they were THAT strong. Very impressive. Just proves that Getrag doesn't build entirely crap transmissions. Hell, it may have been a Ford design with this trans they had Getrag build, without any consultation work.

Yup. But I did a quick Wikipedia of Getrag. I think the V160 was built in Germany but, from what I gather, Getrag is building transmissions(almost all of them) out of China now. Not trying to thread jack.

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by DirtyD Just proves that Getrag doesn't build entirely crap transmissions. Hell, it may have been a Ford design with this trans they had Getrag build, without any consultation work.

It comes down to budget approval on parts. It may very well be a Getrag design, but it's only as good as the parts Ford will give the okay on with the internals. Ford still views the Mustang GT as the entry level sports/passenger vehicle. Most people who buy them, don't mod them to the hilt like us in the hobby therfor there is no need for a "built" trans in a mass production Mustang.

Toyota on the other hand has a reputation for over building on their sports cars. They view cars coming back to the dealership for service work as a loss. American car companies just see it as everyday business.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by DirtyD As said many times before, the remote mount shifter on these trans is the retarded part. I've not known a 1000whp Supra to know have a built or slightly built trans though. Just no way I can see a factory production trans holding up to that in any vehicle.

Over 30 passes in the 8s with this driver. Shows the transmission break on one run though. Not bad I would think and the car was driven and raced since 2008.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwuMIZ4Y_AU

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel

And also because they don't shock the tires anywhere near as hard as a manual car does allowing it to be much more settled going down the track.

Regardless, this conversation has gotten retarded. It only applies to the people building a purpose built, point and shoot track car. There are still a lot of people out there who still like rowing gears taking up the challenge to add the driver equation to the mix to get the car down the track.

Personally, I find driving a car like Brent's boring as hell to drive. It's just not my personal thing. While it puts up great numbers at the track, when driving a car like that it's pretty boring and uneventful. Set the air pressure, stage it, load the suspension, hit a good light and let it fly. Not much to it. No drivers skill to it after the light turns green, not much of a challenge at all. I prefer to row gears, improve my technique and being more connected to the car to enjoy the expierence.

Again, like I said before, we are doing the same things here, just going different ways about it. It all comes down to personal preference and how a car is going to be used. Auto/manual both have their positives and negatives.