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04-21-2014, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOphil
I only need/want 25 or so.
Where can y'all point for me LT's with hf cats that won't rape my bank account?
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Reliable, cheap and fast. Pick two.
You get what you pay for in this hobby. Shortcuts or "cheap" almost always end up being more expensive than if you had done it right the first time.
My car makes 416rwhp/412tq with nothing more than a Lethal hpipe and a tune. It's not complicated.
Stay away from the Boss intake unless you get full bolt on supporting mods. It's a torque killer without them.
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04-21-2014, 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Reliable, cheap and fast. Pick two.
Stay away from the Boss intake unless you get full bolt on supporting mods. It's a torque killer without them.
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I actually agree.....
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04-21-2014, 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Reliable, cheap and fast. Pick two.
You get what you pay for in this hobby. Shortcuts or "cheap" almost always end up being more expensive than if you had done it right the first time.
My car makes 416rwhp/412tq with nothing more than a Lethal hpipe and a tune. It's not complicated.
Stay away from the Boss intake unless you get full bolt on supporting mods. It's a torque killer without them.
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Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.
I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.
I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.
What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.
*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.
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04-21-2014, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOphil
Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.
I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.
I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.
What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.
*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.
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I don't think cams are worth it
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04-21-2014, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOphil
Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.
I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.
I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.
What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.
*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.
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http://www.americanmuscle.com/slp-lo...dx-1112gt.html
Originally Posted by BERT
I don't think cams are worth it
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They are if you find someone who knows what they are doing with the tune.
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04-21-2014, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BERT
I don't think cams are worth it
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I agree. Unless an owner is trying to squeeze every bit of horsepower out of a car, they definetly aren't worth it. Clearly he isn't trying to do that if he's wanting to keep the car completely legit with the cats. It sounds like he's just wanting a fun street car that is "set it and forget it".
That $2000 bucks for the cams would be better spend towards a blower kit.
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04-21-2014, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. Unless an owner is trying to squeeze every bit of horsepower out of a car, they definetly aren't worth it. Clearly he isn't trying to do that if he's wanting to keep the car completely legit with the cats. It sounds like he's just wanting a fun street car that is "set it and forget it".
That $2000 bucks for the cams would be better spend towards a blower kit.
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Mini CJ exhaust cams can be had for under $400....
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04-21-2014, 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
You of all people know that comparing one car's dyno numbers to another's don't mean anything.
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My point was that his goal of 400rw NA is very easily achievable withminimal mods.
Originally Posted by DirtyD
Mini CJ exhaust cams can be had for under $400....
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There is more than just the cams that need to be purchased for that installation, but there is also the cost of installation itself which is very costly. Even still, it's minimal gains for a lot of money.
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04-21-2014, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
My point was that his goal of 400rw NA is very easily achievable withminimal mods.
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Yes, it can be. But by not deleting the cats, he is making himself find a more difficult route to obtain that.
Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
There is more than just the cams that need to be purchased for that installation, but there is also the cost of installation itself which is very costly. Even still, it's minimal gains for a lot of money.
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Yes, but even then, Frank bought everything he needed for the cam swap from Nic for $350. Cams and springs. Grant it he did the install himself, being a mech, I would imagine if you had a decent amount of mechanical knowledge, and offered to help while learning, someone would cut you a deal, or getting a buddy to help. It's still a setup that could be completed and installed for less than half what the Comp Stage 3 costs alone, for roughly the same gains.
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04-21-2014, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by GTOphil
Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.
I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.
I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.
What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.
*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.
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Well, I will tell you this much. If you plan on boosting the car, you will need to ditch the cats at some point. The boosted set up will melt the cats, potentially clogging your exhaust and could blow your motor.
As far as the cams go, they aren't worth the money for the power return and tuning issues that come with them. The stock cams are very capable of making good power with boost.
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04-21-2014, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BERT
Then what about the hi-flo catted shorty h pipes?
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Not sure what you are asking...but if you are talking about replacing the factory manifolds with shorties and high flow cats, I've heard people say that shorties compared to the factory manifolds aren't worth the price.
Originally Posted by BERT
I don't think cams are worth it
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Comp cams aren't worth it, but the mini CJ exhaust cams for these cars are definitely worth it.
Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
My car makes 416rwhp/412tq with nothing more than a Lethal hpipe and a tune. It's not complicated.
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You of all people know that comparing one car's dyno numbers to another's don't mean anything.
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04-21-2014, 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
Not sure what you are asking...but if you are talking about replacing the factory manifolds with shorties and high flow cats, I've heard people say that shorties compared to the factory manifolds aren't worth the price.
Comp cams aren't worth it, but the mini CJ exhaust cams for these cars are definitely worth it.
You of all people know that comparing one car's dyno numbers to another's don't mean anything.
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I can't agree with you. I'll just leave it at that
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04-21-2014, 05:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BERT
I can't agree with you. I'll just leave it at that
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I'm just stating what I've heard echoed from people, that the Coyote doesn't really see much gain replacing the factory manifolds with shorty or equal length headers. Most people have gone LTs. I don't even think I've heard a single person running shorties on our motors.
Not saying all shorties don't do anything, just these motors.
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04-21-2014, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
I'm just stating what I've heard echoed from people, that the Coyote doesn't really see much gain replacing the factory manifolds with shorty or equal length headers. Most people have gone LTs. I don't even think I've heard a single person running shorties on our motors.
Not saying all shorties don't do anything, just these motors.
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I kinda agree with you on that lol I'm talking about the cams.
and I was talking about LT's with a SHORTY hpipe with cats. Not shorty headers. Putting shorty after market headers on these things would be dumb
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