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05-12-2014, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by JDMLOL
Somebody called the troll patrol.
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Yep. I dont do anything about it unless someone complains. Rx7 has been on a tear again the last couple of days. Needs to chill or its break time again. Haha.
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05-12-2014, 11:13 PM
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I just told him to go troll Steve. Lol
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05-12-2014, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Yep. I dont do anything about it unless someone complains. Rx7 has been on a tear again the last couple of days. Needs to chill or its break time again. Haha.
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Big fucking babies. I swear you would think everyone on here is a badass but they get butthurt by any little thing. I also dont see how anything I typed was trollish in nature.
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05-12-2014, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Big fucking babies. I swear you would think everyone on here is a badass but they get butthurt by any little thing. I also dont see how anything I typed was trollish in nature.
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I didn't do anything about it. I was just going to say you spelled "you" wrong. Ha
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05-12-2014, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
I didn't do anything about it. I was just going to say you spelled "you" wrong. Ha
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He has this fettish with me or sumthin.
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05-13-2014, 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMLOL
There are so many hidden variables with fuelly from what I can see. For starters, there is no distinguishment between the EB and the 3.7L N/A v6 on the filters. Next, there is no distinguishment between 4wd, 2wd, what kind of work the truck is being used for, driving style, or if the truck is lifted on 37's. Unless the user happens to have a crappy pic of their truck. All I can tell you is that I can hop in my dad's truck, get on the interstate and have absolutely no problem getting 20+ mpg all day long.
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The pool of data doesn't distinguish all that true. But it is safe to say that ford didn't sell too many 3.7l v6 F150s in 2013, an overwhelming majority will be the EB judging on the profile photos. To have a loaded test where only 2wd or 4wd is what I don't want. I want to see the average from all over America because that is how getting averages work. Don't want data from trucks in a vacuum.
I think forums are the worst place to get the truth, particularly with domestic brand forums. Most people are brand loyal (which I am not) & won't admit when they have a vehicle that gets beat by someone else. All I know is I won't buy an EB based on what I believe are poor results in terms of fuel economy. Towing performance, yes I think it produces the best numbers. However, I still have my doubts on longevity of those engines vs a tradition NA V8.
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05-13-2014, 12:43 AM
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http://www.fuelly.com/car/dodge/ram%...14/diesel%20v6
This truck has only been out since February. But it has some fuel logs in fuelly. Across the board, numbers are in the 20s. Just an unbiased reporting website.
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Texas Mile|1/2 Mile: 140.3|1 Mile: 166.4|She had more in her!
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05-13-2014, 04:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Crimson600+HP
The pool of data doesn't distinguish all that true. But it is safe to say that ford didn't sell too many 3.7l v6 F150s in 2013, an overwhelming majority will be the EB judging on the profile photos. To have a loaded test where only 2wd or 4wd is what I don't want. I want to see the average from all over America because that is how getting averages work. Don't want data from trucks in a vacuum.
I think forums are the worst place to get the truth, particularly with domestic brand forums. Most people are brand loyal (which I am not) & won't admit when they have a vehicle that gets beat by someone else. All I know is I won't buy an EB based on what I believe are poor results in terms of fuel economy. Towing performance, yes I think it produces the best numbers. However, I still have my doubts on longevity of those engines vs a tradition NA V8.
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Why do you question longevity?
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05-13-2014, 07:38 AM
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Ram 1500 EcoDiesel
I am not brand loyal as I have owned several GM trucks. If the truck got horrible mileage I would be the first one to tell you it wasn't worth it. I understand the data analysis part. However, I think fuelly hides some variables worth knowing. I do agree on longevity. My dad has a friend with an 11' EB with ~50k on the clock and it idles like shit and occasionally loses power. I witnessed the rough idle on a cold start and once it was warm, it continued. He's taken it in to the dealer and to no surprise they didn't find anything wrong. What's funny is the problem worsened when he had a ranch hand so he took it off. Almost makes me think the problem is with the intercooler. So there are some bugs that still need to be worked out for sure. Then again, I would question the longevity on anything Dodge. My dad's EB runs great though.
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05-13-2014, 09:20 AM
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Consumers just haven't had the trucks long enough to say they are reliable in higher mileage applications. Same with the 6.7 PSD, 5.0, etc. All of these motors are still new by todays standards, so only time will tell how they live up to high mileage.
Yeah, Ford did a torture test themselves, but nobody else has done so, so 1 data point can't be taken as the truth.
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05-13-2014, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
You guys are talking Diesal prices now not in the future. The past has shown us that they do go up considerably.
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A statement is made that diesel prices are likely to increase in the future but gas prices won't do the same? What logical basis is this assumption drawn from?
Originally Posted by re-rx7
I also dont see how anything I typed was trollish in nature.
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From what I have seen in this thread, others share factual data and you respond with hyperbole, conjecture and speculation.
I see trolling.
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05-13-2014, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rlhay2
From what I have seen in this thread, others share factual data and you respond with hyperbole, conjecture and speculation.
I see trolling.
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He's constantly side tracking threads with his nonsense. This is a great conversation aside from his nonsense. Allow me a moment to resolve this issue then you gentleman can proceed with your adult conversation.
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05-13-2014, 10:35 AM
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I see that somebody got a vacation
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05-13-2014, 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
I see that somebody got a vacation
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Small one for a cool off period.
Now back to your conversation, fellas.
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05-13-2014, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Why do you question longevity?
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Longevity is only questioned because of fairly new tech. A twin turbo designed for heavier duty use instead of speed is new tech. The reliabilty of an engine constantly being fed boost seems like greater chances for things to fail vs. a traditional V8 which loafs along.
This is just my speculation though. I have no data to back it up, just me being skeptical. Diesels have proven that a turbo'd engine can last, but the characteristics between the two engines are quite different. I think the EB can be reliable as a heavier duty engine, but I wouldn't want to put my money there until these things have more data points (only in terms of longevity, I don't think the fuel economy will ever be there).
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2013 GT Premium|Brembo|MT82
ProCharger P1SC Stage 2|Full Suspension|New Plans: NA CJ Intake Manifold/OR H Pipe/3.73 Gears
Road Raced|Auto-X'd
Drag Raced|12.4s @ 119.7
Texas Mile|1/2 Mile: 140.3|1 Mile: 166.4|She had more in her!
Last edited by Crimson600+HP; 05-13-2014 at 11:26 AM.
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