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05-21-2014, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
It's the "cam only" guys that really make me laugh. The car can have a bunch of other shit done to it, but since the heads are untouched, it's "cam only".
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If by "a bunch of other shit" you mean supporting mods for the cam, then it's pretty ridiculous to assume someone would only install a cam WITHOUT supporting mods lol.
I mean seriously, who would install an LG G5X3 cam and not upgrade to longtubes, better intake, IM, plugs, tune, full exhaust to take full advantage of the cam? Of course better heads would be optimal but, everything else is pretty necessary to use the cam without it being a monumental waste of money.
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05-21-2014, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
If by "a bunch of other shit" you mean supporting mods for the cam, then it's pretty ridiculous to assume someone would only install a cam WITHOUT supporting mods lol.
I mean seriously, who would install an LG G5X3 cam and not upgrade to longtubes, better intake, IM, plugs, tune, full exhaust to take full advantage of the cam? Of course better heads would be optimal but, everything else is pretty necessary to use the cam without it being a monumental waste of money.
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You just said it yourself, that isn't just a cam, but a lot of other things as well. The phrase "cam only" is meant to understate mods for those who are uninformed on what it really means. Personally, I find it funny as hell and doesn't bother me in the slightest.
It's all part of racing as far as I'm concerned. If you don't come out prepared, educated on street racing, on your A game, car prepped and running to run it's best race, then it's on you. Hence the old term, "run what ya bring and hope you brought enough".
This latest generation of racers are a bunch of sniveling little whiners who have to bench race it to death first with their calculator racing to insure they get the win or don't race. It's cry baby bullshit. I wish people would just get back to having fun and racing win or lose without thinking it's some kind of personal reflection upon themselves as a man. It's a hobby, the shit is suppose to be fun. I'll race anyone, I don't care. Win or lose, doesn't matter because it's fun.
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05-21-2014, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
This latest generation of racers are a bunch of sniveling little whiners who have to bench race it to death first with their calculator racing to insure they get the win or don't race. It's cry baby bullshit.
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So exactly like Zeek calling out all Mustangs "650whp and below"?
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05-21-2014, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
So exactly like Zeek calling out all Mustangs "650whp and below"?
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I've watched Zeek accept call outs in person from much more powerful cars. He doesn't give a shit.
He called out 650rwhp stangs so he would have a good fun race. Its pretty simple
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05-21-2014, 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
So exactly like Zeek calling out all Mustangs "650whp and below"?
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That's just street racing stuff and everything is negotiable. It's clear you don't know Zeek because he will race anything, including the wind if it challenged him. Make no mistake, Zeek will race. lol
Besides, his car only makes 491rw, so a 650 Stang isn't really unreasonable in his request. He just wants to see where he stands against a blown Stang with him on motor.
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05-21-2014, 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
That's just street racing stuff and everything is negotiable. It's clear you don't know Zeek because he will race anything, including the wind if it challenged him. Make no mistake, Zeek will race. lol
Besides, his car only makes 491rw, so a 650 Stang isn't really unreasonable in his request. He just wants to see where he stands against a blown Stang with him on motor.
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He's made that clear as of late, but didn't seem that clear when he posted that thread. I was just using that as an example anyways.
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05-21-2014, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
But then again, you didn't have to switch to 0W. You could've kept the exact same oil weight and brand that was originally put in the car.
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lol hilarious. So now you CAN in fact change things from factory as long as its within reason and similar.
Which is EXACTLY what a tune does.
Yet thats not ok.
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05-21-2014, 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
He's made that clear as of late, but didn't seem that clear when he posted that thread. I was just using that as an example anyways.
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I really wouldn't expect you to get it since you're not really a racer at all.
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05-21-2014, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
You just said it yourself, that isn't just a cam, but a lot of other things as well. The phrase "cam only" is meant to understate mods for those who are uninformed on what it really means.
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Exactly. I am kind of lost on why you seemed confused about the term if you knew what it meant to begin with. But, no need to get into that and sidetrack the thread.
Originally Posted by Junkie
Car is "factory" anymore once one oil change is done, according to your definition.
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No... just.... no.
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05-21-2014, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Junkie
lol hilarious. So now you CAN in fact change things from factory as long as its within reason and similar.
Which is EXACTLY what a tune does.
Yet thats not ok.
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Let me try this again. Oil is a consumable. I obviously don't have to explain to you what no changing your oil will do. Therefore you have to change it. You don't have to change the car's intake, as the stock on works fine. You don't have to change the factory cam. You don't have to delete the cats. The car will still run perfectly fine with all that stuff staying the same. Saying that changing the oil no longer makes the vehicle stock is about as stupid as a KKK member walking into the slums of Oak Cliff and screaming the N word and not expecting to get killed.
I don't see how you can argue that changing the tune to maximize the efficiency and power of the engine is still stock.
Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I really wouldn't expect you to get it since you're not really a racer at all.
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Here you go again......asinine comments.....
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05-21-2014, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
If by "a bunch of other shit" you mean supporting mods for the cam, then it's pretty ridiculous to assume someone would only install a cam WITHOUT supporting mods lol.
I mean seriously, who would install an LG G5X3 cam and not upgrade to longtubes, better intake, IM, plugs, tune, full exhaust to take full advantage of the cam? Of course better heads would be optimal but, everything else is pretty necessary to use the cam without it being a monumental waste of money.
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I had a g5x2 with stock exhaust on my FRC...
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05-22-2014, 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Trolling thread of the day to pass the time. Kids are playing at the park, don't have shit else to do. lol
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At least you're honest.
Originally Posted by STROKD
I had a g5x2 with stock exhaust on my FRC...
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Part of the equation was off with that setup then.
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05-23-2014, 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
At least you're honest.
Part of the equation was off with that setup then.
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cam made about as much power as headers only, but the lope sounded better than the loud drone... that and I couldnt find GOOD headers for cheap, and I knew I wasnt keeping the car, so I said f them. lol...
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05-23-2014, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by STROKD
cam made about as much power as headers only, but the lope sounded better than the loud drone... that and I couldnt find GOOD headers for cheap, and I knew I wasnt keeping the car, so I said f them. lol...
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Well hey, in that case it makes sense then if you didn't plan on keeping the car.
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