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**DirtyD** · 08-09-2013, 03:53 PM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Nope M6

Assuming you have 235/50/18 tires as well...

Jay = 3.55 and 235/50/18
2nd gear @ 50 = 5320 RPM

You = 3.31 and 235/50/18
2nd gear @ 50 = 4961 RPM

By the end of 3rd gear, if Jay were to shift perfectly at 7000 RPM, you would be almost 500 RPM behind him before you needed to shift.

re-rx7 · 08-09-2013, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Assuming you have 235/50/18 tires as well...

Jay = 3.55 and 235/50/18
2nd gear @ 50 = 5320 RPM

You = 3.31 and 235/50/18
2nd gear @ 50 = 4961 RPM

By the end of 3rd gear, if Jay were to shift perfectly at 7000 RPM, you would be almost 500 RPM behind him before you needed to shift.

Each shift you will lose a lil momentum. I figure its gna be about dead nuts even.

re-rx7 · 08-09-2013, 06:49 PM

Depends on where my friend. On the hwy it's a different story. Ask me how I know.

**DirtyD** · 08-10-2013, 12:11 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Depends on where my friend. On the hwy it's a different story. Ask me how I know.

In a top speed run, you have the advantage. Other than that, the 3.73s will give the other guy a full second or two sooner shift than you have, depending on tire height. As long as traction isn't an issue, the 3.73 will beat you.

**03MachMe** · 08-10-2013, 01:12 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

In a top speed run, you have the advantage. Other than that, the 3.73s will give the other guy a full second or two sooner shift than you have, depending on tire height. As long as traction isn't an issue, the 3.73 will beat you.

Is this based upon on your vast racing experience? From a dig the 3.73 car will have the advantage, from a roll it depends on what speed you start at, amount of power, etc. More gear does not always equal faster. Ok could see a 3.31 car beat a 3.73 car on the hwy in certain situations. That's assuming drivers are equal which they never are.

**Grandpa** · 08-10-2013, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by 03MachMe

Is this based upon on your vast racing experience? From a dig the 3.73 car will have the advantage, from a roll it depends on what speed you start at, amount of power, etc. More gear does not always equal faster. Ok could see a 3.31 car beat a 3.73 car on the hwy in certain situations. That's assuming drivers are equal which they never are.

I agree with you, Ryan. The more he posts on this stuff the more it shows he doesn't have a lot of racing experience. Racing math does apply to a degree to very generally guess how a pair of cars might match up, but to narrow it down to say a 3.73 vs 3.31 car like they did is complete nonsense. They are WAY too many variables in a race between two different cars and drivers to say what will for sure happen. The only way to know for sure is to put the calculator down and actually race.

re-rx7 · 08-10-2013, 03:14 AM

For every shift he loses momentum. The higher geared car stays in gear longer makes a diff.

**Grandpa** · 08-10-2013, 09:14 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

For every shift he loses momentum. The higher geared car stays in gear longer makes a diff.

I disagree. Besides, the differences between 3.73s and 3.31's are very minimal.

re-rx7 · 08-10-2013, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

I disagree. Besides, the differences between 3.73s and 3.31's are very minimal.

I agree that its minimal at best. I raced one with 3:73's and close to the same mods I have and I put on him couple cars. Then again drivers.

**DirtyD** · 08-10-2013, 01:00 PM

I'm applying this to the fact that they both have the same mods, and are running the same tires. Yeah, I know I haven't raced much, I'm not trying to prove that. But if you have two cars that are basically the same mods, same power level, same tune, etc, and the only difference is gears and driver, it's a pretty good guarantee they 3.73 car will take the advantage over the 3.31 car, starting at the same speed, because the 3.73 car will have the ability to reach the shift points at a sooner time. I don't really understand the argument on shifting. If you know what you're doing, you aren't taking your sweet time rowing gears in a race, so shifting is negated, as I said before, since the ground that is gained when the other shifts is lost as soon as you shift.

**Grandpa** · 08-10-2013, 02:22 PM

Lol just stop. You need more seat time to learn and put down the calculator.

**DirtyD** · 08-10-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Lol just stop. You need more seat time to learn and put down the calculator.

I know I need more seat time. Do you see me denying that?

I can't afford (time and money) to hit the track every weekend to, especially when the nearest track worth racing on is about 1 hour away.

Call me a bench racer. IDGAFFMF!

All I'm doing is using the fact and information currently available to me to form an opinion.

re-rx7 · 08-10-2013, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

I know I need more seat time. Do you see me denying that?

I can't afford (time and money) to hit the track every weekend to, especially when the nearest track worth racing on is about 1 hour away.

Call me a bench racer. IDGAFFMF!

All I'm doing is using the fact and information currently available to me to form an opinion.

You dont need a track for seat time. I learned late at night, on backroads, pick up races on the hwy. Shit just drive it man. Besides what would a track have to do with this race?

**DirtyD** · 08-10-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

You dont need a track for seat time. I learned late at night, on backroads, pick up races on the hwy. Shit just drive it man. Besides what would a track have to do with this race?

I work. I have a dog to take care of. I have a life outside of the car scene. I can't afford to just go drive around right now. If I were still in college, maybe. I can't just head out during the night and drive around. Believe me, I would love to, but not at the scarification of sleep that could possibly affect my job performance. And unfortunately pick up races just don't seem to find me on the highway. And I surely won't do it in traffic out of the safety of others.

re-rx7 · 08-10-2013, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

I work. I have a dog to take care of. I have a life outside of the car scene. I can't afford to just go drive around right now. If I were still in college, maybe. I can't just head out during the night and drive around. Believe me, I would love to, but not at the scarification of sleep that could possibly affect my job performance. And unfortunately pick up races just don't seem to find me on the highway. And I surely won't do it in traffic out of the safety of others.

Man your dense. I work as well. "Feel" your car....