Trying to decide on future motor build

[STROKD]

Originally Posted by blownaltered I'm not interested in spinning the hell out of the blower. That blower isn't small. It's the equivalent of a d1 in Procharger or a t trim in vortec. So it will move some air.

Donnie, someone lied to you. A novi 2k is almost as good as an old S trim V1... the d1 and t trim are much better.

A 408 will move more air all the time and have less lag. You already have the hood for clearance, if you are replacing shit anyway, all you need is an ac bracket and different headers. My dad spent a lot of money regretting not getting a stroker windsor... he wanted a fun reliable build like you do too, i told him at least 50 times to build a 351 block, but he knew best. now he has a heavy slow ass car with an expensive motor, where it could have been fucken fast for 100 bucks more for the bigger block.

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by STROKD Donnie, someone lied to you. A novi 2k is almost as good as an old S trim V1... the d1 and t trim are much better. A 408 will move more air all the time and have less lag. You already have the hood for clearance, if you are replacing shit anyway, all you need is an ac bracket and different headers. My dad spent a lot of money regretting not getting a stroker windsor... he wanted a fun reliable build like you do too, i told him at least 50 times to build a 351 block, but he knew best. now he has a heavy slow ass car with an expensive motor, where it could have been fucken fast for 100 bucks more for the bigger block.

This is a combo I saw on the corral. This looks like it could be fun. I'll sell off my blower if I go this route.


Dart IE built by Rick Hawver of RNH performance
9.3:1
AFR 205's
Shaft rockers
Super Vic intake with a 6061 elbow
120 injectors
E85
76 GTSHP turbo (3" downpipe and journal bearings)
Precision A/A intercooler (the 825hp one)
Viper T56
Kurgan tuned Big Stuff3

Made 954 a@26psi but dialed the boost down to 23ish

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by blownaltered a 408 would be fun but i think it will be over kill for what i want. I never want 1000hp, i don't race often and when i do it's against steve for shits and giggles.

Originally Posted by blownaltered the other thing is i don't want to do to the vert what i did to my 01gt. I don't want to make it where it isn't fun to drive. By that i don't want to have to worry every time i take it out something might break. That car was more fun at 450 than it ever was at 625, but i think that had a lot to do with my combo, blower selection and builder.

Originally Posted by blownaltered this is a combo i saw on the corral. This looks like it could be fun. I'll sell off my blower if i go this route. Dart ie built by rick hawver of rnh performance 9.3:1 afr 205's shaft rockers super vic intake with a 6061 elbow 120 injectors e85 76 gtshp turbo (3" downpipe and journal bearings) precision a/a intercooler (the 825hp one) viper t56 kurgan tuned big stuff3 made 954 a@26psi but dialed the boost down to 23ish

lmao...

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT lmao...

I know, I know. I did forget to attach the fact that combo is on a 363 not a 408. I'm also bored out of my fucking mind so I keep looking up shit. I'm just thinking a combo like that with less boost will put me where I want to be and if I ever wanted to turn it up I could.

[STROKD]

Originally Posted by blownaltered I know, I know. I did forget to attach the fact that combo is on a 363 not a 408. I'm also bored out of my fucking mind so I keep looking up shit. I'm just thinking a combo like that with less boost will put me where I want to be and if I ever wanted to turn it up I could.

If that was a 408 with bigger heads, itd be that power on like 17 psi.

I plan to make that on race gas at about 12, but im turning big rpm and have 2 turbos similar in size.

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by STROKD If that was a 408 with bigger heads, itd be that power on like 17 psi. I plan to make that on race gas at about 12, but im turning big rpm and have 2 turbos similar in size.

Trust me I know where your coming from but I have no desire to try and compete with guys running 1000hp. That's not what I'm into. Once upon a time I would have spent money to try and get there but I just want a certain power level and I will be fine. I know the 408 will make it easier but I would have to change to much stuff that I don't want to have to change.

I plan to make a plan to build both and see where I end up price wise. Since huge horsepower isn't my end goal it will most likely come down to price. If the 408 is within a certain amount of the 347 then I will start purchasing parts for it but if it is a lot more then I will stick with the 347, make my 650 to 700 hp and be happy.

[STROKD]

Originally Posted by blownaltered Trust me I know where your coming from but I have no desire to try and compete with guys running 1000hp. That's not what I'm into. Once upon a time I would have spent money to try and get there but I just want a certain power level and I will be fine. I know the 408 will make it easier but I would have to change to much stuff that I don't want to have to change. I plan to make a plan to build both and see where I end up price wise. Since huge horsepower isn't my end goal it will most likely come down to price. If the 408 is within a certain amount of the 347 then I will start purchasing parts for it but if it is a lot more then I will stick with the 347, make my 650 to 700 hp and be happy.

It depends on what you plan to replace anyway. If you are changing the intake and headers, parts are same price for either motor... if all you need is a gd ac bracket, ill buy a new one and give you my old one. The biggest deal is the hood which you already have... if you dont want huge power, you can get a sportsman 9.5 deck block like i had for cheaper than a dart or boss block for a baby motor... the sportsman block will support 800 rw with no problems, 1000 rw with billet main caps.

I know you arent trying to make big power, but the 408 just makes more sense. If I could afford another build Id sell you my 351 shortstroke and go to a 427 in a heartbeat...