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Old 08-09-2013, 03:02 PM   #1
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Default 5w50-ouch

Picked the oil for first oil change. Track pack = 5w50 =$10/qt.

Yikes!!!
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:08 PM   #2
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Originally Posted by El_Tortuga View Post
Picked the oil for first oil change. Track pack = 5w50 =$10/qt.

Yikes!!!
why 5w50? Brand?

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Old 08-09-2013, 07:06 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 View Post
why 5w50? Brand?
5w50 is the standard weight in the Track Pack cars, just like the Boss models.

Don't know what brand or where you bought, but if you did it yourself, you could have spent 10-minutes searching Walmart, and other local part stores and found a better price.
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Old 08-09-2013, 10:19 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by kn7671 View Post
5w50 is the standard weight in the Track Pack cars, just like the Boss models.

Don't know what brand or where you bought, but if you did it yourself, you could have spent 10-minutes searching Walmart, and other local part stores and found a better price.
Guess again. Spent a hell of lot more time researching than that.

Did not find it on the shelf anywhere else. Can find Motorcraft online, but very close to the same price, so I picked it up at the local ford dealer.

Not many choices for full syn 5w50, even less that meet the spec. Castrol makes one that is the cheapest, but doesn't meet the spec. Redline makes one and meets the spec, but is even more expensive. Mobil one cost is similar but doesn't meet the spec. Royal purple doesn't show as making it. Maybe amsoil, but that ain't going to be cheap either.

Not many cars spec 5w50. E.g. GT500, BOSS, track pack, and Lexus LFA.
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Old 08-10-2013, 12:13 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by El_Tortuga View Post
Guess again. Spent a hell of lot more time researching than that.

Did not find it on the shelf anywhere else. Can find Motorcraft online, but very close to the same price, so I picked it up at the local ford dealer.

Not many choices for full syn 5w50, even less that meet the spec. Castrol makes one that is the cheapest, but doesn't meet the spec. Redline makes one and meets the spec, but is even more expensive. Mobil one cost is similar but doesn't meet the spec. Royal purple doesn't show as making it. Maybe amsoil, but that ain't going to be cheap either.

Not many cars spec 5w50. E.g. GT500, BOSS, track pack, and Lexus LFA.
Even for track use I think many people have said that 5w50 is overkill.
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Originally Posted by kn7671 View Post
5w50 is the standard weight in the Track Pack cars, just like the Boss models.
Same spec for the Aluminators and all Roush cars.
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Old 08-09-2013, 03:48 PM   #7
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10 bucks a quart is nothing... lol
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wtf??? This is going to sound dumb, are you sure?
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Old 08-09-2013, 08:18 PM   #9
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It's what the owner's manual specifies for the 2014 GT w/Track Pack.
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The 5w50 is great... for a racecar, not a daily. That weight is only used in cars that are thrashed on a daily basis. Its a race oil plain in simple. It might sound cool, but without a built motor, or excessively high cylinder head temp its really pointless. Might at well put some good old Rotella T 15w40 in there.
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I have a 13 Track Pack that calls for 5w50... I just run RP 5w30 HPS or XPR, then again im heavily modded, don't want to use those if you are keeping warranty.
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Originally Posted by merlinmol View Post
I have a 13 Track Pack that calls for 5w50... I just run RP 5w30 HPS or XPR, then again im heavily modded, don't want to use those if you are keeping warranty.
Keeping the engine bone stock to maintain full warranty. It will get tracked, and this is Texas so better to pay the piper now than risk any oil / heat issue at the track.

As an engineer myself, I'd be fairly certain a cost conscious company like Ford wouldn't call out such a high spec oil unless they truly saw the need. If it is only truly required for certain scenarios then so be it. So we know that the ECU
will dial back the engine if oil temp gets too high. What I don't know is if they move set point up in the track pack calibration to take advantage of the better heat resistance of the heavier full synthetic. I have been told that the regular GT (non BOSS) guys tend to run into heat limits at the track.

Paid good coin and special ordered to get the track pack, won't cheap out now.
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Originally Posted by El_Tortuga View Post
It will get tracked, and this is Texas so better to pay the piper now than risk any oil / heat issue at the track.

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Originally Posted by El_Tortuga View Post
Keeping the engine bone stock to maintain full warranty. It will get tracked, and this is Texas so better to pay the piper now than risk any oil / heat issue at the track.

As an engineer myself, I'd be fairly certain a cost conscious company like Ford wouldn't call out such a high spec oil unless they truly saw the need. If it is only truly required for certain scenarios then so be it. So we know that the ECU
will dial back the engine if oil temp gets too high. What I don't know is if they move set point up in the track pack calibration to take advantage of the better heat resistance of the heavier full synthetic. I have been told that the regular GT (non BOSS) guys tend to run into heat limits at the track.

Paid good coin and special ordered to get the track pack, won't cheap out now.
I can't blame you there, however, mine is modified. I need a better oil for racing, RP HPS is for modified street/race, and XPR is race, I don't race enough to justify the cost of running XPR all the time. However, those oils all have performance additives which will typically void warranty. Pretty sure I did that adding a supercharger and a custom tune....
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Originally Posted by merlinmol View Post
I can't blame you there, however, mine is modified. I need a better oil for racing, RP HPS is for modified street/race, and XPR is race, I don't race enough to justify the cost of running XPR all the time. However, those oils all have performance additives which will typically void warranty. Pretty sure I did that adding a supercharger and a custom tune....
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