E85 and the new 5.0

[Doug1227]

I'll just roll with 93 and throw some race gas in at the track when I'm beating on it.....

[StormTrooper]

Ever had rice pudding, that shit is nasty?

[GTRacerX]

Originally Posted by GTRacerX What all is involved in changing over to E85 on the coyote motors. I know a tune would be required, but what about the fuel lines and injectors etc.?

Thanks for answering my question everyone

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by GTRacerX Thanks for answering my question everyone

from what I gather injectors and a tune. The lines are fine. But I don't have a coyote so if you really want to know pm 04sleeper

[DirtyD]

Originally Posted by GTRacerX Thanks for answering my question everyone

Minimum 47# injectors and a tune. Talk with 04sleeper. But as its said before, for a daily driver it isn't the smartest move if you are worried about economy.

[Midnight11]

e85 info only. this will stay clean

[Bearded Banger]

E85 is liquid gold.

[04sleeper]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT I'm switching back to pump gas and adding torco to mine. My mpg sucked cause of e85. Even though I don't drive it that much, going to lewisville from frisco and back I use 1/4 of a tank. That's BS. Plus the drivability on the car sucked with e85. So I don't know if changing to 13:1 compression had anything to do with the drivability issue but I will not be running e85 again.

Good! Just leaves more for us!

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT And if e85 is soooooooo great how come none of the true race cars run it? Jus wondering.

Because most sanctioning bodies don't allow it. They consider it cheating.

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT I did pro e85 and they run 8's and 9's. still no 6's or 7's I didn't do a complete search but people been doing that shit for years on race gas. So nothing special. I still don't see how e85 is so much better then everything else. Sounds like you e85 guys are turning into the "new" LS1 guys.

They have been doing that shit for years on E85 as well.

Here's one of my good friends street car.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8WTHrojnms

Try this on Torco!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpO8w2X15zU

Originally Posted by DirtyD The 275x guys probably don't use it because their motors are built to work most efficient and most powerful off pure race gas and boost than anything else. That would honestly be a question for Clint as to why they don't run it. Plus E85 only gives around 105 octane, and those guys are wanting like 120.

No. It's because most races won't allow it.

Originally Posted by re-rx7 The same goes for E85 you really never know if that is really E85. Its hit and miss. When I had my rx7 I premixed. Oil and that is and had a pretty gd ratio worked out.

Doesn't matter even if it were E70. It will still make more power and be more consistent.

BTW: I wouldn't run Torco in my lawnmower!

Unless you want your heads to look like this from all the MMT.



Or your plugs to look like this.

[DirtyD]

Originally Posted by 04sleeper No. It's because most races won't allow it.

Or that too. LOL

[46Tbird]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Do any of those 900 rwhp has 13:1 compression. I bet all of them are boosted. Like I said boosted and low compression cars has great success and worth the e85. NA and high compression is a different story.

So I am curious...

Jeff, besides fuel mileage (which surely you know about before running it) what makes you think E85 "didn't work" for you? Your car seems like a perfect candidate for it. Are you disappointed with your numbers? Are the numbers better with race fuel? Since I'm not "in the loop" with the current status of everyone's car I have no idea why you're so anti-E85.

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT I filled my mustang with e85 and ran like shit. Convince me it's the best stuff ever.

So the tune was a problem? Seems like maybe you should consider having it tuned by someone else, just to see if there is a difference. The fuel was certainly not a problem - there are E85 and flex fuel vehicles in use all over the country that don't have drivability problems.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by 46Tbird So I am curious... Jeff, besides fuel mileage (which surely you know about before running it) what makes you think E85 "didn't work" for you? Your car seems like a perfect candidate for it. Are you disappointed with your numbers? Are the numbers better with race fuel? Since I'm not "in the loop" with the current status of everyone's car I have no idea why you're so anti-E85.

I knew about the mileage but it dropped a lot more then expected. And the idle sucked on it. It die on me a lot which before with cams and pump gas it never did. If I get below a 1/4 of a tank it felt like my engine was starving and it would die on me EVERY TIME I came to a stop. So it might be just my build I don't know but people I have talk to and TS has talk to, no one has had any luck with e85 and bump compression or my kind of build.

[46Tbird]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT I knew about the mileage but it dropped a lot more then expected. And the idle sucked on it. It die on me a lot which before with cams and pump gas it never did. If I get below a 1/4 of a tank it felt like my engine was starving and it would die on me EVERY TIME I came to a stop. So it might be just my build I don't know but people I have talk to and TS has talk to, no one has had any luck with e85 and bump compression or my kind of build.

Bad idle and dying when coming to a stop is not an E85 issue. Is someone working on getting the pump gas / race gas tune done? I'm interested in knowing the numbers and how much the drivability improves.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by 46Tbird Bad idle and dying when coming to a stop is not an E85 issue. Is someone working on getting the pump gas / race gas tune done? I'm interested in knowing the numbers and how much the drivability improves.

Yes and should have numbers by this end of this week.

[DirtyD]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Yes I had two tuners tune my car and it still continue to run crappy. I called different shops they done somewhat similar builds and TS did the same and none of them had luck on e85. So no I didn't just throw in the towel cause I wanted my car to be on e85 from the get go but it didn't work out.

I was asking that as a serious question, because I wasn't aware what other options your had looked into. So I will believe you on that.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by DirtyD I was asking that as a serious question, because I wasn't aware what other options your had looked into. So I will believe you on that.

I had one of the best tuners in the world (at least thats what everyone says) in Mike Wilson to look at it and it still didn't run right.