BAMA Ghost Cam Tune, GOOD OR BAD?

[Yagermeister]

One other issue with the lope idle from any tuner is that you should not have your cats still on the car as it will destroy them. Besides..who still has cats on their Mustang anyways??

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister One other issue with the lope idle from any tuner is that you should not have your cats still on the car as it will destroy them. Besides..who still has cats on their Mustang anyways??

I just saw your car in 5.0 Magazine. I looked past it a couple of times and didn't even click. Wasn't used to seeing your car on the stock wheels. lol

[re-rx7]

Originally Posted by Selcouth Uh oh you just went there.

It's true.

[Selcouth]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 It's true.

Or not cause it was first used in the 19th century for steam engines or something similar to the process known as steam cutoff.

If you are talking automotive then you can thank FIAT who successfully patent one that was fully functional in the early 60's. However, if you are about to argue who first actually put it in a production car it wasn't Honda, but Alfa Romeo in the early 80's. Honda had nothing to do with the technology till the late 80's in the automotive world. But Ford owned that shit in the truck world. Give credit where it's due. :P

[re-rx7]

Originally Posted by Selcouth Or not cause it was first used in the 19th century for steam engines or something similar to the process known as steam cutoff. If you are talking automotive then you can thank FIAT who successfully patent one that was fully functional in the early 60's. However, if you are about to argue who first actually put it in a production car it wasn't Honda, but Alfa Romeo in the early 80's. Honda had nothing to do with the technology till the late 80's in the automotive world. But Ford owned that shit in the truck world. Give credit where it's due. :P

Jesus, look up the first company that introduced cam switching. Honda was the first. Its a fact,

[46Tbird]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 The more I hear about the coyote motor the more it seems like a kseries motor from Honda. It to can adjust timing up to 50degrees! Man I guess we should be thanking Honda for variable valve timing in a way.

Yeah....except that VTECH functions in a completely different way and Honda didn't invent or even conceive variable valve timing.

I see nothing wrong with a lope tune. You're just taking advantage of the inherent valvetrain adjustability to get a better sound out of the car. Frankly I can't stand the near-silent sewing machine idle on these cars. But the lope tunes also sound completely ridiculous, like a nascar stocker. Be nice to just get a 'burble tune' lmao.

[re-rx7]

Originally Posted by 46Tbird Yeah....except that VTECH functions in a completely different way and Honda didn't invent or even conceive variable valve timing. I see nothing wrong with a lope tune. You're just taking advantage of the inherent valvetrain adjustability to get a better sound out of the car. Frankly I can't stand the near-silent sewing machine idle on these cars. But the lope tunes also sound completely ridiculous, like a nascar stocker. Be nice to just get a 'burble tune' lmao.

It Vtec. Actuated by oil pressure. How are they different?

[46Tbird]

I already explained that Honda didn't conceive or engineer the first variable valve technology, so WHY would Ford thank them for it?

Honda uses a secondary high lift, high duration lobe for each valve. Ford uses one lobe per valve and phases the camshaft as needed.

[re-rx7]

Honda can be considered the first true "can switching" system.

[Yagermeister]

Steve, I'm not used to seeing it on stock wheels either ;-)

[re-rx7]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

"VTEC can be considered the first "cam switching" system and is also one of only a few currently in production."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC

"A third option is to change the cam timing profile, of which Honda VTEC was the first successful commercial design for altering the profile in real-time."

[Toby]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing "VTEC can be considered the first "cam switching" system and is also one of only a few currently in production." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC "A third option is to change the cam timing profile, of which Honda VTEC was the first successful commercial design for altering the profile in real-time."

Call it what you will, Hondas V-tech system is entirely different in every way from the TiVCT system ford uses. Only one fact about them is the same and that is the fact they both use oil pressure to activate the system. Other then that they are polar opposites in how they work and what they affect. I have built more then one of these new 5.0 and a couple Honda motors, I can tell you exactly how each work and what is required for them to make the changes they so in performance and economy.

[JDMLOL]

Just tried it out on my car, what a joke. Yeah it sounds good, but it's fake and I can already foresee the driveability issues. Stalled at a light after a 15 min spin around town. To top it off, at lights you can just watch the gas needle drop, even on that short of a trip. Uploading the race tune without this faux idle shit and leaving it until I can get a real (dyno) tune.

[re-rx7]

The mustang system reminds me of the vvti in the Toyota. The K-series I-Vtec Honda engines are much like the VVTI but can adjust up to 50 degrees either way. You must have tore apart a Bseries.