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**Dominic Toretto** · 04-08-2014, 02:31 PM

I like everything but, I wouldn't spend $40k on it. Not my style for that kind of money.

-Alex

**STROKD** · 04-08-2014, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

I like everything but, I wouldn't spend $40k on it. Not my style for that kind of money.

-Alex

Its not 40 k. Its 34 loaded. R's have no options besides how many doors you want. 4 doors only at launch, hopefully the 2 door comes around next summer. They are the same length, but the 2 door looks sportier to me and is about 50 lbs lighter.

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-08-2014, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

Its not 40 k. Its 34 loaded. R's have no options besides how many doors you want. 4 doors only at launch, hopefully the 2 door comes around next summer. They are the same length, but the 2 door looks sportier to me and is about 50 lbs lighter.

Oh okay cool, thanks for clearing that up.

Any interior picks? Curious to see how much Bugatti influence is in this car.

-Alex

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

Its not 40 k. Its 34 loaded. R's have no options besides how many doors you want. 4 doors only at launch, hopefully the 2 door comes around next summer. They are the same length, but the 2 door looks sportier to me and is about 50 lbs lighter.

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-08-2014, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

Making a huge assumption. Not everyone has terrible credit. The car itself is one price. That's the question. Your arguement is like including maintenance as the actual price to buy the car.

-Alex

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Making a huge assumption. Not everyone has terrible credit. The car itself is one price. That's the question. Your arguement is like including maintenance as the actual price to buy the car.

-Alex

I disagree. Unless you pay cash, those will be factors involved in the cost of the car when you sign the papers for the car. It's simple math.

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-08-2014, 03:38 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

I disagree. Unless you pay cash, those will be factors involved in the cost of the car when you sign the papers for the car. It's simple math.

Not the case. The price of the car, and the price to finance a car are not the same thing.

The MSRP is the cost of the car, period. The cost to finance a car is not the same as the price to buy the car. By your logic, we could assume the car is a $50k or even $60k car as well if you want to assume the cost after financing based on some people's credit

-Alex

**DirtyD** · 04-08-2014, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

I only come up with about $37k after TT&L.

You don't include financing, IMO, since not everyone finances.

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

I only come up with about $37k after TT&L.

You don't include financing, IMO, since not everyone finances.

Most people finance, it's a reasonable assumption. Matt would definitely finance it since he doesn't care about the bottom line. All he cares about is the monthly payment.

**BERT** · 04-08-2014, 04:25 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

All he cares about is the monthly payment.

And that's a problem?

re-rx7 · 04-08-2014, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by BERT

And that's a problem?

Actually yea...

**STROKD** · 04-08-2014, 05:51 PM

Originally Posted by BERT

And that's a problem?

I dont see it as a problem. Steve and I are in different worlds, he acts like my grandparents about buying cars,and thats cool, but I dont keep cars forever, I fucken HATE selling cars to lowballing pricks because everyone thinks they are Richard Rawlings, so I prefer to lease a daily car so Im not stuck with it or fucked being upside down. Case in point, my CC is worth about 14 grand and I owe 18... in 4 months I wont owe a gd thing because Im giving it back to VW... just saved about 4 grand after payments...

All that said, leasing this car wikk be at LEAST 300/mo cheaper than leasing a similar sticker priced Mustang... thats about 11 grand i save in 3 years in payments...

**STROKD** · 04-08-2014, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

Everything financed has a bottom line. When my house is paid for itll cost me over 350 grand. Is it a 350 k house? No its a gd 200 k house. Same goes for cars and everything in life that isnt paid cash for. Same thing can also be said for a new Mustang etc, you cant add that and taxes in to the total because its just part of the deal. I mean you can but its not comparing apples. I personally think this car is worth 34 k. A new Mustang not so much.

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

Everything financed has a bottom line. When my house is paid for itll cost me over 350 grand. Is it a 350 k house? No its a gd 200 k house. Same goes for cars and everything in life that isnt paid cash for. Same thing can also be said for a new Mustang etc, you cant add that and taxes in to the total because its just part of the deal. I mean you can but its not comparing apples. I personally think this car is worth 34 k. A new Mustang not so much.

The market maybe 200k, but if you pay 350k for the house, then that is what it cost you. Same for the car. If the car is 34k, but it costs you $40k due to everything added on to it, then it cost you 40k. If you have to finance the car, it's no longer 34k. You wouldn't be able to leave the dealership with it without the added expenses to the car unless you pay cash. It's pretty black and white.

**STROKD** · 04-08-2014, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

The market maybe 200k, but if you pay 350k for the house, then that is what it cost you. Same for the car. If the car is 34k, but it costs you $40k due to everything added on to it, then it cost you 40k. If you have to finance the car, it's no longer 34k. You wouldn't be able to leave the dealership with it without the added expenses to the car unless you pay cash. It's pretty black and white.

Spin it how you wish, ts a 34 k sticker car. Thats what Dom and everyone posting asked...