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blownaltered · 12-19-2012, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

If its illegal, people will do it. No matter the consequences. That's the nature of people.
IMO the laws and punishments are set to accommodate a wide variety of people. Those who abuse drinking and driving obviously will face harsher punishment depending on prior offenses, but what about those that learn from it and change their lifestyle?
EDIT
To be be clear, im speaking on the DWI charges alone and leaving the manslaughter charge alone as i think that's a separate charge altogether anyhow.

That's my point smash someone's life for a first offense. Second yeah that's different you should have learned your lesson. But Steve and his 30 days in jail for the first offense is ridiculous. People would lose their jobs and maybe homes. That's why they will never make the law like that.

**Grandpa** · 12-19-2012, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

That's my point smash someone's life for a first offense. Second yeah that's different you should have learned your lesson. But Steve and his 30 days in jail for the first offense is ridiculous. People would lose their jobs and maybe homes. That's why they will never make the law like that.

Sometimes in order to get people's attention, you have to do more than tap them on the shoulder. Some people need a sledgehammer over the head. It's your opinion that 30 days is ridicuous. In my opinion it would work because it's so severe it would make a lot of people think twice about doing it. The "ridiculous" is what would make it work.

blownaltered · 12-19-2012, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Sometimes in order to get people's attention, you have to do more than tap them on the shoulder. Some people need a sledgehammer over the head. It's your opinion that 30 days is ridicuous. In my opinion it would work because it's so severe it would make a lot of people think twice about doing it. The "ridiculous" is what would make it work.

So you want to punish drunk drivers worse than most violent crimes. Can we do texting and driving the same way. If we are going to throw the book at one you have to do it to everybody. I don't think people should lose everything for a first offense, that's where I think you crazy

**Grandpa** · 12-19-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

So you want to punish drunk drivers worse than most violent crimes. Can we do texting and driving the same way. If we are going to throw the book at one you have to do it to everybody. I don't think people should lose everything for a first offense, that's where I think you crazy

I'm not talking about violent crimes or texting. We're talking about DWI here. Yes, they need to be severely punished. I know you like to go out and have some drinks, don't take my opinion personally.

**Courtesy Flush** · 12-19-2012, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

That's my point smash someone's life for a first offense. Second yeah that's different you should have learned your lesson. But Steve and his 30 days in jail for the first offense is ridiculous. People would lose their jobs and maybe homes. That's why they will never make the law like that.

Having never had a DWI or DUI i don't have a dog in this fight, but i see both points.

blownaltered · 12-19-2012, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

Having never had a DWI or DUI i don't have a dog in this fight, but i see both points.

I never have either

**zemog255** · 12-19-2012, 06:10 PM

I think the biggest problem is how many people don't realize they are over the limit. I have no clue when my BAC is around .08 or what it even feels like. The law allows people to use their judgment on what they think is ok and thats the problem in my opinion. Imagine cars without speedometers lol

blownaltered · 12-19-2012, 06:16 PM

Originally Posted by zemog255

I think the biggest problem is how many people don't realize they are over the limit. I have no clue when my BAC is around .08 or what it even feels like. The law allows people to use their judgment on what they think is ok and thats the problem in my opinion. Imagine cars without speedometers lol

It's a guessing game, you want to help put a breathalyzer at the bar. You hit the limit and the bar calls you taxi. That would be better than any hammering the shit out of somebody who didn't realize they had one to many.

**Phuck Phace** · 12-19-2012, 06:14 PM

Next DFW/5.0/Terminators/and a couple of 3vs and V6s.com meet we should all get drunk and race.

GO KARTS!

blownaltered · 12-19-2012, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace

Next DFW/5.0/Terminators/and a couple of 3vs and V6s.com meet we should all get drunk and race.

GO KARTS!

Sounds fun but how would we get home?

**Phuck Phace** · 12-19-2012, 06:18 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

Sounds fun but how would we get home?

piggyback

**Grandpa** · 12-19-2012, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

Sounds fun but how would we get home?

<-----Always the DD.

<----- Sober enough to call you a cab.

**Bearded Banger** · 12-19-2012, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace

Next DFW/5.0/Terminators/and a couple of 3vs and V6s.com meet we should all get drunk and race.

GO KARTS!

Race in reverse!

blownaltered · 12-19-2012, 07:02 PM

In all honesty with the punished Steve wants you will have more drunks run from the cops the you have ever had before and that will cause more death and destruction. People aren't going to stop drinking because of fear of punishment. Drugs are illegal and millions of people do them everyday. You will just make people try to get away. I would guess the amount of dwi chases would double

blownaltered · 12-20-2012, 01:31 AM

I know drinking in driving isn't good but your not going to stop it because they will never start a ridiculous set of penalties like you want. Which is probably good for most of this board from what I read.