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Old 03-31-2015, 12:32 AM   #1
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Default Ploice Corvette used to catch Racers at TX2K15

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Some points I picked out 1. so I have to jump out of a speeding vehicle if I'm a passenger to avoid a traffic citation if the driver gets busted for speeding, 2. "Anyone" doesn't mean anyone it means "Everyone except cops." and 3. that guy at the end in the GT500 should be arrested for being way too damn short LOL.

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Old 03-31-2015, 02:29 PM   #3
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That passengers part is duuuuummmmbbbbb.
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 View Post
That passengers part is duuuuummmmbbbbb.
That's putting it nicely LOL.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto View Post
That's putting it nicely LOL.

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I was gonna say "How the fuck can that even be a law? So if the driver is drunk and I'm not, I may be an idiot for riding with him, but I'm not committing a crime. And I dare say big cities like Houston and Dallas just may, maybe, maybe maybe maybe have drug and crime problems that are a little more pressing than some asshole like me driving 110 on the George Bush. Whatever, Officer Jack Ass. Go out and grab a handful of meth dealers. I'm not saying I wouldn't deserve a ticket for a holeshot and 90 in a 40. Bring it on, I deserve it, but a passenger? Come on.
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Old 04-01-2015, 11:42 PM   #6
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 View Post
I was gonna say "How the fuck can that even be a law? So if the driver is drunk and I'm not, I may be an idiot for riding with him, but I'm not committing a crime. And I dare say big cities like Houston and Dallas just may, maybe, maybe maybe maybe have drug and crime problems that are a little more pressing than some asshole like me driving 110 on the George Bush. Whatever, Officer Jack Ass. Go out and grab a handful of meth dealers. I'm not saying I wouldn't deserve a ticket for a holeshot and 90 in a 40. Bring it on, I deserve it, but a passenger? Come on.
+1! But you clearly here the officer say that the passenger is guilty as well. Pure, unfiltered, distilled fuckery.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEbMBCAK53E

Some points I picked out 1. so I have to jump out of a speeding vehicle if I'm a passenger to avoid a traffic citation if the driver gets busted for speeding, 2. "Anyone" doesn't mean anyone it means "Everyone except cops." and 3. that guy at the end in the GT500 should be arrested for being way too damn short LOL.

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1. They never say anything about speeding its racing where anyone involved, either actively participating or a spectator can be charged. The law for racing is written that way to deter people from going to street races. 2. once again this must be over your head because I don't hear you bitching about undercover cops buying drugs from drug dealers, or picking up prostitutes but because its something illegal that YOU do all the sudden its wrong that they can catch you doing it. 3. by the looks of it he was going to jail, although I doubt it was for his height.
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Originally Posted by Lucky13 View Post
I was gonna say "How the fuck can that even be a law? So if the driver is drunk and I'm not, I may be an idiot for riding with him, but I'm not committing a crime. And I dare say big cities like Houston and Dallas just may, maybe, maybe maybe maybe have drug and crime problems that are a little more pressing than some asshole like me driving 110 on the George Bush. Whatever, Officer Jack Ass. Go out and grab a handful of meth dealers. I'm not saying I wouldn't deserve a ticket for a holeshot and 90 in a 40. Bring it on, I deserve it, but a passenger? Come on.
I already explained this but I'll try again..... DWI is not written where the passenger can be arrested for the same offense. Racing however is. It is in order to deter people from going out and watching street racing. And I promise you Dallas and Houston have full time squads dedicated to drug problems. Police departments can't just ignore crimes because there may be bigger ones somewhere in the city otherwise Dallas PD would never respond to any calls where someone isn't shot or stabbed. Once again the law is written that way for a reason and if you have a problem with it talk to your legislature because the cops aren't the ones who made the law include spectators. Weather you like to admit it or not street racing is dangerous not only for the people racing but everyone else on the road, that and the fact that the problem has increased and seems kids get stupider and stupider is the reason that they have increased racing from just a class C ticket to a class B where you go to jail and changed the law to include spectators.
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I wondered if you'd pick up this thread after I wrote the officer jack ass part. Understand the legislature and enforcement relationship so that was probably a bit much.

The passenger deterrent part is my issue, and agree, I should take it up with my legislator, it's just a shit ton easier and probably accomplishes more to bitch on a forum than it would to talk to a congressman! LOL!
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Old 04-11-2015, 12:18 AM   #10
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1. They never say anything about speeding its racing where anyone involved, either actively participating or a spectator can be charged. The law for racing is written that way to deter people from going to street races. 2. once again this must be over your head because I don't hear you bitching about undercover cops buying drugs from drug dealers, or picking up prostitutes but because its something illegal that YOU do all the sudden its wrong that they can catch you doing it. 3. by the looks of it he was going to jail, although I doubt it was for his height.
I'm not talking about going to race wars dude.

I'm talking about a random event that a passenger cannot possibly control. If my friend and I decide to just go somewhere, he drives and randomly decides to race someone out the blue, how am I responsible for that? What, in your cop's mind thinks "Yeah this guy in the passenger seat needs to go to get a ticket because he didn't jump out of the car while the driver was racing." How does that make sense to you?

Also, sorry but, no one else is talking about prostitutes or drugs. I don't do either so, can't help you there.

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I'm not talking about going to race wars dude.

I'm talking about a random event that a passenger cannot possibly control. If my friend and I decide to just go somewhere, he drives and randomly decides to race someone out the blue, how am I responsible for that? What, in your cop's mind thinks "Yeah this guy in the passenger seat needs to go to get a ticket because he didn't jump out of the car while the driver was racing." How does that make sense to you?

Also, sorry but, no one else is talking about prostitutes or drugs. I don't do either so, can't help you there.

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That's where the Officers discretion comes in. Most are not going to take the passenger to jail in a situation like that. The law is written that way to prevent the large gatherings and things like TX2K. I promise you anyone that was "just driving around" with a friend in a car like that in Houston during TX2k know exactly what they are going out to do. Like I said cops do not make the law and more often than not do not enforce laws by the letter because we are smarter than that. And my reference to drugs and prostitutes was in regards to your "Everyone except cops." Yes in order to catch criminals we sometimes have to do the things criminals are doing, I.E. under cover buys for drugs, under cover johns for prostitution and undercover cars for street racing.

oh and racing isn't a ticket. Both the driver and passenger go to jail
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Old 04-11-2015, 08:50 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by 03MachMe View Post
That's where the Officers discretion comes in. Most are not going to take the passenger to jail in a situation like that. The law is written that way to prevent the large gatherings and things like TX2K. I promise you anyone that was "just driving around" with a friend in a car like that in Houston during TX2k know exactly what they are going out to do. Like I said cops do not make the law and more often than not do not enforce laws by the letter because we are smarter than that. And my reference to drugs and prostitutes was in regards to your "Everyone except cops." Yes in order to catch criminals we sometimes have to do the things criminals are doing, I.E. under cover buys for drugs, under cover johns for prostitution and undercover cars for street racing.

oh and racing isn't a ticket. Both the driver and passenger go to jail
There's a difference in being an undercover john or a fake drug dealer. The difference is, you're not actually doing it, you're feigning the part. When the cop in this video was catching the criminals, he ACTUALLY broke the law. Pretending to be a john isn't a crime. Pretending to by drugs isn't a crime. To my knowledge, cops aren't going to prostitutes, paying for the sex, then arresting the prostitutes. That's the big difference here, the cop ACTUALLY broke the law.

So, sorry we will just agree to disagree. It will never make sense to me that, in order to enforce a law, you have to break it. That's contradictory to the purpose.

You're still good in my book and don't want you to think this was personal. Just, as a non-cop to cop conversation, we just won't agree on most things.

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