Power Adder Decisions

[Doug1227]

Looking to do something around the first of the year. Been reading up quite a bit. Let me know what you think is the best option. Car is an A6 '12 with a catback, SCT tuner and Cat deletes.

Goal: 620-650rwhp/XXXrwtq Mid-High 10’s on a DR.

Kenne Bell 2.8LC Polished Tuner Kit - $6949

I have some 60# injectors already. Will I need the BAP? If so, Add $259
Pros: Can keep stock gears (3.15) and stock converter and still 60’ decent. Clean Install. No need for Intake Manifold.
Cons: More expensive. Installation a little harder than the Paxton.

Paxton 2200SL Polished “Beefcake Special” - $5400-$5600

Includes ID1000 injectors, Vortech BAP, and extra pulley
Pros: Cost and room for growth. Easiest Install
Cons: Will probably need gears/converter/Boss IM to get it out of the hole. Less grunt off the line?

Hellion Twin Turbo Tuner Kit - $7295 from Power Adder Solutions
Use the 60# injectors? BAP? If so, add $259 using KB.
Pros: Cool, great power per PSI, tons of room for growth.
Cons: Cost, installation time

For All Options: Will the 60# injectors be enough? Require BAP? Problematic to tune?
Oil Pump Gears required?
Keep the stock gearing and converter?

[Midnight11]

Paxton will get you that easy or a procharger d1 from true street!

[downtime!]

I'd never choose a Paxton over a Procharger, but either one will get you pretty close to what you're wanting. The KB is overkill for that low a power level, trust me. Probably wouldn't need the BAP for that level. Same for the Hellion kit, and I'm still hearing of fitment issues even with the new twin kit. It does look cool under the hood though.

[Phuck Phace]

Originally Posted by Midnight11 ...or a procharger d1 from true street!

This.

[Doug1227]

The CON in my head for the Centri's is the fact that I'd probably need a Boss IM and gears and converter to get it out of the hole! (Besides loosing my CS fog lights). Keep in mind my car's an auto....

[Phuck Phace]

Originally Posted by Doug1227 The CON in my head for the Centri's is the fact that I'd probably need a Boss IM and gears and converter to get it out of the hole! (Besides loosing my CS fog lights). Keep in mind my car's an auto....

I was able to keep my fogs with the StageII procharger intercooler. Haven't ran at the track but it is mad fun on the streets.
I also hear the autos with a TVS will easily run 10s all day.

[Doug1227]

I think all (3) kits have some room to grow if I decide down the road to build the shortblock. I like having that option. What's a D1 tuner kit go for? Is it the D1sc or just the D1? I like the self contained option (part of what I like about the KB and Paxton). Just to clarify, I think all 3 will get me to where I want to be, and if they don't, I'll turn 'em up! I'm just looking at the supporting mods I'll need and general feedback about the kits...

[Doug1227]

I'm guessing that would apply to the KB's as well and I like the room to grow with the KB.

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace I was able to keep my fogs with the StageII procharger intercooler. Haven't ran at the track but it is mad fun on the streets. I also hear the autos with a TVS will easily run 10s all day.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Doug1227 Looking to do something around the first of the year. Been reading up quite a bit. Let me know what you think is the best option. Car is an A6 '12 with a catback, SCT tuner and Cat deletes. Goal: 620-650rwhp/XXXrwtq Mid-High 10’s on a DR. Kenne Bell 2.8LC Polished Tuner Kit - $6949 I have some 60# injectors already. Will I need the BAP? If so, Add $259 Pros: Can keep stock gears (3.15) and stock converter and still 60’ decent. Clean Install. No need for Intake Manifold. Cons: More expensive. Installation a little harder than the Paxton. Paxton 2200SL Polished “Beefcake Special” - $5400-$5600 Includes ID1000 injectors, Vortech BAP, and extra pulley Pros: Cost and room for growth. Easiest Install Cons: Will probably need gears/converter/Boss IM to get it out of the hole. Less grunt off the line? Hellion Twin Turbo Tuner Kit - $7295 from Power Adder Solutions Use the 60# injectors? BAP? If so, add $259 using KB. Pros: Cool, great power per PSI, tons of room for growth. Cons: Cost, installation time For All Options: Will the 60# injectors be enough? Require BAP? Problematic to tune? Oil Pump Gears required? Keep the stock gearing and converter?

Any of those options will easily help you meet your goal which is relatively easy to meet with these cars. It really comes down to your driving style and how you use the car.

A centri blower on these cars isn't really like what it use to be on on past Mustangs lacking low end because the motor now has double the power a fox used to have. These cars are beasts with centri blowers making power all the way to the redline. Beefcake is making over 1000rw with his car and drives it everyday.

PD blowers are a blast to drive around town making instant torque. It routinely takes around 100hp less to go 10's with a Roush blower in comparison to a centri blower.

Turbos, well there is nothing I can tell you about turbos that you don't already know Doug. I spent 2 hours speaking with John Urist at SEMA about that kit and saw it in person on that green car. The ONLY cutting on that kit is the $50 dollar piece on the lower valance that is easily replacable. The same can't be said on several centri kits. The downside of the turbo kit is the cost and the extensive installation which will take awhile. But once it's together, look out because it will be a monster.


IMO, I don't think there is really a wrong way to go because these cars respond so well to boost. It really comes down to your budget and driving style. I've already made my choice and I'm really looking forward to it. It's going to be a blast!

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace I was able to keep my fogs with the StageII procharger intercooler. Haven't ran at the track but it is mad fun on the streets. I also hear the autos with a TVS will easily run 10s all day.

Yes sir. A TVS car with an auto is the easiest way to go 10's with these cars. It's so simple it's ridiculous.

[Grandpa]

BTW - you should do billet oil pump gears no matter what when boosting these cars. It's a MUST have.

[Midnight11]

auto with the paxton. makes 713hp

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Midnight11 auto with the paxton. makes 713hp

You can also do that with a Roush TVS with 150hp less.


In my opinion, turbos and PD blowers are the way to go with automatic cars, especially if it's street driven like Doug's is.

If his car was a six speed, Paxton's rock. The top end is very turbo like.

[Doug1227]

Guys with Auto Centris have to do a converter or gears or it'll 60' just like it does NA which SUCKS! Add that to the cost and it's getting closer to the KB and turbo....

[JDBishopArts]

Hopefully I'll have the Hellion Kit in a couple years. That's the plan anyway.