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**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

Hooking from a stop at the track is easier then it is at TI, FYI

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

**Junkie** · 01-09-2014, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

Because they don't want to dig race, I'm confused on why you refuse to see that?

Also several of these guys on radial race cars, or race teams as well.

You need to consider safety, imagine the trap speeds of a car that traps 180 in the 1/4 but in the 1/2. Also gearing, stopping distance, etc...

**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

Because they don't want to dig race, I'm confused on why you refuse to see that?

Also several of these guys on radial race cars, or race teams as well.

You need to consider safety, imagine the trap speeds of a car that traps 180 in the 1/4 but in the 1/2. Also gearing, stopping distance, etc...

Just trying to understand more that's all.

**Dominic Toretto** · 01-09-2014, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

Who says they aren't? Just because this video exists, doesn't mean that they do not also do other stuff with these cars. There are people that prep the same car for 1/4 mile and autocross.

-Alex

**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Who says they aren't? Just because this video exists, doesn't mean that they do not also do other stuff with these cars. There are people that prep the same car for 1/4 mile and autocross.

-Alex

Well... I am sure they do as it seems these guys are into racing obviously. Just reaffirms my feelings towards it. Just not a fan of roll racing and its hard for me to see the point.

**Grandpa** · 01-09-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Hook, line, and sinker! BOOM! (agreed with most of this)

I do agree too though it does take some serious skill, tuning, and testing to control one of these mammoth horse power cars though

But....

You do have to agree going from a 60 roll does add some control factor to the race. The control factor meaning a safe starting speed because these cars have too much power to go from a dig for their current setup.

It doesn't add any control factor what-so-ever. Any of those cars with the wrong tune could just as easily blaze the tires at 60, 80, 100+. You're still thinking like a low powered horsepower guy. It's all in the tune, bring the power too soon, it will murder the tires. Too late, you get drug by the other car. Like any kind of racing, it's finding the sweet spot for the conditions.

Btw, those big "dig" cars you were talking about are notorious for breaking. Going from a dead stop, at rest, is extremely stressful on a car and those cars constantly destroy drivetrain and rearend parts, twist chassis etc. Get maybe two or three passes out of a clutch if they are actually rowing gears. The auto cars are just point and shoot using fancy traction control boxes like a Davis box that cost $15k alone.

Hell, some of those KOTH cars cost as much or more as some of the T1 GTR's and URG Lambos! lol.

**BLK2012GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:28 PM

Good god that video had nothing but pure sex in it. And keeping any car under control doing 170 plus does take skills. I was doing 160 when I raced Eric and the car felt like it was floating. And you guys know damn well that type of racing would be a lot of fun. I would love to do that.

**Grandpa** · 01-09-2014, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Well... I am sure they do as it seems these guys are into racing obviously. Just reaffirms my feelings towards it. Just not a fan of roll racing and its hard for me to see the point.

It has the same point as any other kind of racing, to compete, have fun and win.

**03MachMe** · 01-09-2014, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

Not thinking its cool, and it not being your fine is all well and good. The only thing im disagreeing with is how you guys seem to take that it takes less setup/skill/etc... to get these cars to hook. When in reality you have no experience with it. Experience > reading shit in motor trend and thinking you know whats up

my point is this all thing equal with the same car it is easier to roll race than it is to drag race and its easier to drag race than it is to road race/autox. whether its a 1500hp lambo or a 300hp mustang one thing will be harder to do than the other. To me this kind of racing is the easiest of the 3. That is just my opinion. Yes I am sure it takes quite a bit of skill to get this car to stay straight in a TI event. however I bet its even harder to launch at the track and run a fast time for its power level, and prolly even harder to control on a road course. That is all I was saying . I know these cars are stupid fast, and as they should be for the money they cost. Its just not my cup of tea. Your testing more about the car and less about the driver. If that is what you are after, to prove you own a faster car than everyone else, then this is the type of racing for you. Which is why a lot of people do it. I however would rather prove I am a better driver than others, which is why I like road/autox and occasionally the drag strip. You took it way too personal like we are saying you can't drive because you have a 1000+ hp car. Not what we were saying just that we think it takes less skill to get the same car down a roll race than it does for a dig race or a road race.