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Old 01-15-2014, 07:02 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto View Post
No it's not that at all. I have great respect for their personal experience and race knowledge. I don't doubt that they may have in fact seen someone drive a C6 faster than a C7 but, as we all know, that doesn't equate that C6s are faster than C7s. Not stock for stock. If you put the same driver in a C6 in a C7, the C7 will be faster all day everyday.

I don't agree that a few handfulls of instances dictate overall performance and drivers across the board. I highly doubt Chevrolet would spend this much R&D to make more power, use better tires, make the car more slippery to make it accelerate slower than the previous car. I know Ferrari got away with it with the F50 from the F40 but not on the home front .

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What your saying has been tested, and you're wrong.


go back to the internetz and google some shit
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Old 01-15-2014, 07:45 PM   #2
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What your saying has been tested, and you're wrong.


go back to the internetz and google some shit
What if I corvetteforums.com some shit?

The C7 Fast List
Last Updated: December 3, 2013

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Bone-Stock on Stock Tires
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Rank~~ E.T.~~ Trap~ 60'~ Driver~~~~~ M.Yr. Details
1~~~~11.496~~118.96~~1.683~SNORMAN~~~~'14 A6 (Post#4)
2~~~~11.953~~118.26~~1.878~VNAMVET~~~~'14 A6 Z51 Timeslip in sig, (Post#21)
3~~~~11.955~~119.62~~1.919~Kyle Lemish~~~'14 M7 non Z51 and no NPP (Post#13)
4~~~~12.164~~116.31~~1.938~Greg Quillen~~~'14 M7 Z51, Has NPP (Post#15)

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Showroom Stock LS2 (2005 -2007)
12.215 @ 115.45 - LS1LT1 - 06 A6 - (1278)
12.235 @ 115.58 - 06C6FVR - 06 M6 Z51 - (333)
12.290 @ 114.29 - Proney - 07 M6 - (4500)
12.314 @ 114.82 - CYA Vett - 05 M6 F55 - (675)
12.422 @ 113.90 - DrRichie - 05 M6 Z51
12.499 @ 114.90 - Jschindler - 05 M6 Z51
12.53x @ 113.00 - Wicked07C6 - 07 M6 Z51 - (914)

Showroom Stock LS3 (2008 - 2013)
11.718 @ 119.94 - AndrewZPSU - 08 M6 - (2586)
11.806 @ 118.82 - Gmrulz - 08 A6 Z51, NPP - (3478)
11.974 @ 116.98 - Proney - 08 M6 Z51, NPP - (4652)
12.058 @ 122.05 - AndrewZPSU - 10 A6 NPP - (5051)
12.100 @ 115.19 - Odin - 09 A6 2.73 npp - (4325)
12.102 @ 117.60 - Dingrao - 08 A6 - (3561)
12.127 @ 116.59 - Pettvette - 08 A6 - (4278)

Keep in mind, the C6 base car got a hp increase. The C7 has been out for one year, so technically if you're going to compare apples to apples, you compare first year car to first year car. But even still a LT1 is still faster than an LS3 C6.

Lowest time for a LS3C6 is 117.18, LT1 C7 is 11.496. So the LS3s are faster eh?

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What if I corvetteforums.com some shit?

The C7 Fast List
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3~~~~11.955~~119.62~~1.919~Kyle Lemish~~~'14 M7 non Z51 and no NPP (Post#13)

Showroom Stock LS3 (2008 - 2013)
11.718 @ 119.94 - AndrewZPSU - 08 M6 - (2586)
. So the LS3s are faster eh?

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Looks to me the fastest manual ls3 car is quicker and faster than your mighty c7's fastest manual time...

as for the ls2/3 thing, they didnt change shit on the ls1 c5 vettes besides the intake, cam, the valve covers, and emissions over 8 year span... so its unknown and not precedent that there will be a LT revision.
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Looks to me the fastest manual ls3 car is quicker and faster than your mighty c7's fastest manual time...

as for the ls2/3 thing, they didnt change shit on the ls1 c5 vettes besides the intake, cam, the valve covers, and emissions over 8 year span... so its unknown and not precedent that there will be a LT revision.
When did we start comparing the LS1s lol? This was a debate(if you can call it that) about the C6 and C7. You're all over the place tonight lol.

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When did we start comparing the LS1s lol? This was a debate(if you can call it that) about the C6 and C7. You're all over the place tonight lol.

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U were basically saying there was probably going to be a LT revision in the c7. I was stating just because it happened in the c6 doesnt necessarily mean it will in the c7 using the c5 history as an example.

Decided to respond to that vs the c6 time being faster than the C7 time that u posted. Good call and misdirection.

Just so you know, Junkie and i both like the c7, just dont see a 20k bump in price with the way it performs... if it was 50 k loaded like it should be, itd be a pretty sweet car. Id pay 30 k for a 1 year old one like i did my c6..
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U were basically saying there was probably going to be a LT revision in the c7. I was stating just because it happened in the c6 doesnt necessarily mean it will in the c7 using the c5 history as an example.
That's fair.

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Decided to respond to that vs the c6 time being faster than the C7 time that u posted. Good call.
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Just so you know, Junkie and i both like the c7, just dont see a 20k bump in price with the way it performs... if it was 50 k loaded like it should be, itd be a pretty sweet car. Id pay 30 k for a 1 year old one like i did my c6..
That's fair, deciding price is subjective. Performance data isn't.

I understand your view on it. Junkie is apparently either just trolling like there's no tomorrow or having his own personal beerfest.

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Old 01-16-2014, 01:50 PM   #7
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That's fair.

Fixt.


That's fair, deciding price is subjective. Performance data isn't.

I understand your view on it. Junkie is apparently either just trolling like there's no tomorrow or having his own personal beerfest.

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Not trolling at all

I just think real world experience > better know it all google'ing shit from forums.

I base my opinions on what I see, in DFW, while out at races and car events. Not what somebody half way around the country posts on the internet on some retarded list.

If I based everything on internet list, im sure I would end up like you. No experience, referencing other peoples accomplishments.
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