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Old 04-02-2013, 02:25 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by STROKD View Post
yes and no. a 302, no, a 302 stroked to something substantial, yes. my dad's 351 stroker made 487 bhp which would be around 410rw, and it's only 8.8-1 and has a baby cam and small heads...

I think a 347 with 11-1 compression and some good heads would make over 400 rw, but it wouldnt be 5k unless he found all the parts used.

Edit, I think Toby made 420 rw with a 347 as well... not sure on specifics.
ok cool, these are the answers i been looking for.
I just got the new Muscle Mustangs and Fast Fords and they did a whole bunch of engine combos on the 302/stroker/boosted applications.

The final N/A motor was a 363 stroker (302 based block), dart pro heads, holley 950 carb, custom cam, and put down to the crank 564/ 487.

in comparison to a modified carb 347 stroker which put down 482/ 424 to the crank.

So it looks like I'll be going stroker.
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Old 12-04-2013, 02:16 AM   #2
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Aod are junk no matter how much money you put in them

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Old 04-02-2013, 12:31 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by OG Fox View Post
STOP HIJACKING MY THREAD.

lets stay on topic. how hard would it to get 400 wheel horsepower out of a 302.? lets say i found an 91 in the graveyard somewhere. what would the plan be? is that something i can keep around 5k for just the motor.
The budget you are setting is MORE than enough to get to your goal, but it's a waste of time trying to do it with a 302 based block. I run across 393's, 408's and other 351 based strokers all the time that are complete and ready to drop in for under $5k.

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74 is a decent year, with stock 2 bolt mains its safe to about 600-650bhp... Or 500ish rw. I beam rods are cheap, SRP pistons are off the shelf non custom replacements made by JE (decent). I think the price is fair because of the heads... What compression and cubic inch is it?
That is a 408Ci, not sure on compression.
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Originally Posted by Mike View Post
The budget you are setting is MORE than enough to get to your goal, but it's a waste of time trying to do it with a 302 based block. I run across 393's, 408's and other 351 based strokers all the time that are complete and ready to drop in for under $5k.



That is a 408Ci, not sure on compression.
for a 408 with a good forged crank, the price is more than reasonable. I would figure that motor with 205s and a good carb intake should make 430-450 at the wheels depending on compression?

Edit, just re read the motor setup, with a solid roller it could make near 500 rw... that'd be a fun street engine.
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You want real info go to www.corral.net and do a search in the Windsor motor forum. Do some reading and you will find your answer.
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I just put a tko 600 in mine with a twin disc clutch. Since I make 500hp my t5 was living on borrowed time. Decided to sell the t5 before it blew up and I couldn't sell it.
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this video was posted today. crazy coincidence? ever heard of blueprint engines? they have a 347.
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392 crank hp from a 347 is pretty f'in sad.

Call this guy.

http://www.keithcraft.com/
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Originally Posted by STROKD View Post
392 crank hp from a 347 is pretty f'in sad.

Call this guy.

http://www.keithcraft.com/
yeah, those numbers were low, i was expecting 450. and thanks, ill look into it.
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yeah, those numbers were low, i was expecting 450. and thanks, ill look into it.
he has a dyno video of a 302 they just built that did 605 at the crank... thats about 510 rw. out of a pushrod 302... probably not in your 5k budget though.
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Originally Posted by STROKD View Post
he has a dyno video of a 302 they just built that did 605 at the crank... thats about 510 rw. out of a pushrod 302... probably not in your 5k budget though.
prolly not. but my main concern is a good starting point. so right now im deciding on a short block.
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Dale - I just got my copy of the new 5.0 Mustang in the mail today and on the front cover is a four eye fox body and it's all about motor swaps this month! How weird is that? lol
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Dale - I just got my copy of the new 5.0 Mustang in the mail today and on the front cover is a four eye fox body and it's all about motor swaps this month! How weird is that? lol
haha i got mine too and read through all the builds. 347 stroker carb or efi is where im leaning. it can't be a coincidence.
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haha i got mine too and read through all the builds. 347 stroker carb or efi is where im leaning. it can't be a coincidence.
My carb'd car did not like the cold weather at all, very tempermental until it warmed up. It was easy as hell to tune though and cheaper than EFI. On the nitrous plate it would carry the front wheels about a foot off the ground for the first few feet. It left HARD!

There are pros and cons to both EFI and carb'd setups. It's really what you can live with and afford.
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Dale - I just got my copy of the new 5.0 Mustang in the mail today and on the front cover is a four eye fox body and it's all about motor swaps this month! How weird is that? lol
Save me that copy would ya. I'm starting to do research on that for down the road. I might start buying parts here and there for the swap, so it's not such a hit all at once. Makes the wife happy when I spend it slower.
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