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**Grandpa** · 09-15-2012, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by downtime!

Symantics, they've always been called rivets, even if they are bolts, and they still look like shit in my opinion. Make 'em the same color as the wheel so they don't jump out at you. Focus should be on the car as a whole, not on some polished "bolts".

It's not semantics at all, it's just wrong usage of terminology by someone who doesn't know any better. Rivets are for sheetmetal, bolts hold things together.

I would agree fake bolt heads glued to a wheel that being used in their functional capacity is a bit lame, but a true multi-piece wheel that is hand built requires bolts to hold it together. A multi-piece wheel can be disassembled at any time for cleanings or to change out the centers or hoops for any reason like of they are damaged. That can't be done with a cast type wheel. If a cast wheel needs to be repaired, it will never look the same again. In addition to that, cast type wheels also tend to be much heavier rather than a multi-pieced wheel. So there is much more to the assembly bolts rather than just the look of them.

Different strokes. I personally don't like all black wheels because you loose the detail. It's about contrast and making flow. With an all blacked out wheel, you might as well just leave the stockers on in black because it shows the same amount of detail - none. A lot of times, a car with blacked out wheels will look like it's just a void of anything there at all.

Now, that's not to say that all black can't look good at all, but it doesn't work for all cars and has to have the right contrasting lines and colors.

It's cool you don't like my wheels, as I said different strokes for different folks. But I would say you are in the minority with that opinion because EVERYTIME I drive my car somewhere I get compliments and questions about them.

**downtime!** · 09-15-2012, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

It's not semantics at all, it's just wrong usage of terminology by someone who doesn't know any better. Rivets are for sheetmetal, bolts hold things together.

I would agree fake bolt heads glued to a wheel that being used in their functional capacity is a bit lame, but a true multi-piece wheel that is hand built requires bolts to hold it together. A multi-piece wheel can be disassembled at any time for cleanings or to change out the centers or hoops for any reason like of they are damaged. That can't be done with a cast type wheel. If a cast wheel needs to be repaired, it will never look the same again. In addition to that, cast type wheels also tend to be much heavier rather than a multi-pieced wheel. So there is much more to the assembly bolts rather than just the look of them.

Different strokes. I personally don't like all black wheels because you loose the detail. It's about contrast and making flow. With an all blacked out wheel, you might as well just leave the stockers on in black because it shows the same amount of detail - none. A lot of times, a car with blacked out wheels will look like it's just a void of anything there at all.

Now, that's not to say that all black can't look good at all, but it doesn't work for all cars and has to have the right contrasting lines and colors.

It's cool you don't like my wheels, as I said different strokes for different folks. But I would say you are in the minority with that opinion because EVERYTIME I drive my car somewhere I get compliments and questions about them.

I fully understand the tech behind multi piece wheels, having had a few sets of Jongbloed wheels way back in the day. And I never said I don't like your wheels, just don't like bright "bolt heads" on black wheels. As long as everything is basically one color, they kind of blend in and aren't nearly as obvious as silver on black. Don't take stuff so personal anyway, it's just my opinion.

**Grandpa** · 09-15-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by downtime!

I fully understand the tech behind multi piece wheels, having had a few sets of Jongbloed wheels way back in the day. And I never said I don't like your wheels, just don't like bright "bolt heads" on black wheels. As long as everything is basically one color, they kind of blend in and aren't nearly as obvious as silver on black. Don't take stuff so personal anyway, it's just my opinion.

I'm not taking it personal at all bro. Just a discussion.

**downtime!** · 09-15-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I'm not taking it personal at all bro. Just a discussion.

True dat. Also, I believe the wheels in question (the Valencias) are just a welded 2 piece, so the bolt heads are just for show. Looking at their website though, they make some damn good looking wheels.

**04sleeper** · 09-15-2012, 10:02 PM

I think I'm going to trade my wheels for some black RTR's.

Havn't seen anything like that on a new 5.0 yet!

**jarheadtex** · 10-12-2012, 12:48 AM

Concept One CS-10?

http://www.howeyindustries.com/conce...wheel-set.html

**jarheadtex** · 10-12-2012, 09:40 PM

WOW...I was looking at some TF wheels. Steve, ...how did you purchase yours? Their website is a nightmare.

I kinda like the turn 8's

**OG Fox** · 02-02-2013, 03:23 AM

Originally Posted by Steve

It's not semantics at all, it's just wrong usage of terminology by someone who doesn't know any better. Rivets are for sheetmetal, bolts hold things together.

I would agree fake bolt heads glued to a wheel that being used in their functional capacity is a bit lame, but a true multi-piece wheel that is hand built requires bolts to hold it together. A multi-piece wheel can be disassembled at any time for cleanings or to change out the centers or hoops for any reason like of they are damaged. That can't be done with a cast type wheel. If a cast wheel needs to be repaired, it will never look the same again. In addition to that, cast type wheels also tend to be much heavier rather than a multi-pieced wheel. So there is much more to the assembly bolts rather than just the look of them.

Different strokes. I personally don't like all black wheels because you loose the detail. It's about contrast and making flow. With an all blacked out wheel, you might as well just leave the stockers on in black because it shows the same amount of detail - none. A lot of times, a car with blacked out wheels will look like it's just a void of anything there at all.

Now, that's not to say that all black can't look good at all, but it doesn't work for all cars and has to have the right contrasting lines and colors.

It's cool you don't like my wheels, as I said different strokes for different folks. But I would say you are in the minority with that opinion because EVERYTIME I drive my car somewhere I get compliments and questions about them.

my black wheels look sexy. because race car. so fuck you steve.

**Grandpa** · 02-02-2013, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

my black wheels look sexy. because race car. so fuck you steve.

Says the guy selling his car...

**OG Fox** · 02-02-2013, 03:46 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Says the guy selling his car...

hey now. selling the car for personal reasons. not because i dont love my wheels. i'd keep the car if i could. some things in life are more important.