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Old 08-08-2013, 10:33 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by Midnight11 View Post
If it was bad gas wouldn't it run like shit from the whole tank and not just wot pull?
No, Gas and water don't mix. Jeff told me he put gas in his car and drove it home (right around the corner) Over nigh water and gas separate, Water on top and fuel on the bottom. Jeff states he drove the car and was beating on the car with no issues. Once jeff came to a stop he states he was right about or below a half. I can only assume he got it low enough that the water was introduced. of coarse it as he start to race someone.....lol Bad timing to race, Not jeffs fault

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Quick trip is a top tier gas. My car has run on qt for 3 years now and has no problems making power.. Sounds like e85 problems
If jeff had E-85 I would for sure say its was just a bad tank of fuel (since E-85 attracts water maybe it was just old E), but this is on 93oct
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:24 AM   #2
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I've always heard QT sucks, good to know.
I've had bad luck. Friend had one across the street from him we filled the car up a few times and it lost plugs more than once... Never lost plugs at Chevron or Exxon.Maybe that station just sucked.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:15 AM   #3
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I usually try and get chevron if not then I get Shell.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:30 AM   #4
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I've also been told Racetrack and junk, I stick to Shell, Exxon, etc...
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:35 AM   #5
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I've also been told Racetrack and junk, I stick to Shell, Exxon, etc...
We have had two other customers come by with water in the fuel issues and they both had shell fuel as well. Different shell station than the one we had issues with. This has all been in the last 6 months
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:41 AM   #6
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I always buy gas from the same place when we are near home. Any other time like on vacation or road trip I always try to buy from large name brand gas stations that have a separate pump for each octane rather than a shared pump for all octanes. A friend of mine who is a tech for Exxon told me that when you buy gas at pumps that share all octane levels you will get the same octane for about a gallon of the person who used the pump before you. Now, for most people on a stock motor that's not a big deal. But for someone on a boosted setup or built motor setup with a edgy tune and only pumping a few gallons to save weight, it could be an issue.
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Old 08-08-2013, 10:47 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT View Post
I always buy gas from the same place when we are near home. Any other time like on vacation or road trip I always try to buy from large name brand gas stations that have a separate pump for each octane rather than a shared pump for all octanes. A friend of mine who is a tech for Exxon told me that when you buy gas at pumps that share all octane levels you will get the same octane for about a gallon of the person who used the pump before you. Now, for most people on a stock motor that's not a big deal. But for someone on a boosted setup or built motor setup with a edgy tune and only pumping a few gallons to save weight, it could be an issue.
yup.. race car problems
when i put gas in i fill the tank.. and i have a very conservative tune..
i think every number my car has put down has been on qt gas.. i guess once i have a race car like some of the mustangs ill have to go to shell
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:03 AM   #8
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I always buy gas from the same place when we are near home. Any other time like on vacation or road trip I always try to buy from large name brand gas stations that have a separate pump for each octane rather than a shared pump for all octanes. A friend of mine who is a tech for Exxon told me that when you buy gas at pumps that share all octane levels you will get the same octane for about a gallon of the person who used the pump before you. Now, for most people on a stock motor that's not a big deal. But for someone on a boosted setup or built motor setup with a edgy tune and only pumping a few gallons to save weight, it could be an issue.
I agree, Jeff said this is the only place he buys fuel and has never had a issue before. And I can tell you with as much driving as I do and as much fuel as I use I have never got a bad tank my self. Here at the shop we see 30+ cars a month for tuning and out of all of those cars everyone of the three were a shell gas issue. It is very uncommon to have bad fuel
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Well anyway if it was just fuel then a rematch is in order v
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Old 08-08-2013, 11:04 AM   #10
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Well anyway if it was just fuel then a rematch is in order v
I would still think the super charged car would win, But I think with jeff car running good. The blower car will have to be on its game to beat jeff N/A
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Old 08-08-2013, 01:54 PM   #11
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I've had good luck with chevron fuel, there is just not any on my route to and from work.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:23 PM   #12
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Yeah that race the Nic "the dick" posted wasn't exactly a race cause once I shifted into second my car was pretty much dead. It had no power. Even Gary rode in my car after that and he could tell it was running bad. Took it to TS and they put it on the dyno and it was pulling about 9-10 degrees of timing at WOT. Then Clint drove it on the street with Sean datalogging it and it wasn't running right just driving it normal. I think it even went down to 7 degree of timing. Now I refilled at the same QT I always go to off of coit and 121 and the car is driving fine so far. But I am going back to TS so they can make sure it's not pulling any more timing.

Now as far as racing Corey again I will. NA I don't think I will beat him which I shouldn't since he makes 50-60 more rwhp and 200 more rwtq. But hopefully this time every time will be fine and I'll spray it and then walk away from him. We just need to do it when it isn't 110 degrees outside cause my bottle gets hot quick and his SC doesn't like the heat at all.
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I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:33 PM   #13
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT View Post
Yeah that race the Nic "the dick" posted wasn't exactly a race cause once I shifted into second my car was pretty much dead. It had no power. Even Gary rode in my car after that and he could tell it was running bad. Took it to TS and they put it on the dyno and it was pulling about 9-10 degrees of timing at WOT. Then Clint drove it on the street with Sean datalogging it and it wasn't running right just driving it normal. I think it even went down to 7 degree of timing. Now I refilled at the same QT I always go to off of coit and 121 and the car is driving fine so far. But I am going back to TS so they can make sure it's not pulling any more timing.

Now as far as racing Corey again I will. NA I don't think I will beat him which I shouldn't since he makes 50-60 more rwhp and 200 more rwtq. But hopefully this time every time will be fine and I'll spray it and then walk away from him. We just need to do it when it isn't 110 degrees outside cause my bottle gets hot quick and his SC doesn't like the heat at all.
why not get something like an OT-2 that you can plug in and log to your phone/ipad instead of going back and forward ? that way you can see if it is or isnt pulling timing.
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Old 08-08-2013, 02:35 PM   #14
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Originally Posted by White_lightning View Post
why not get something like an OT-2 that you can plug in and log to your phone/ipad instead of going back and forward ? that way you can see if it is or isnt pulling timing.
I'll probably do that.
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I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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Old 08-08-2013, 04:59 PM   #15
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I thought street racing was bad?

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