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**NAVAG** · 11-21-2014, 11:02 AM

Well I missed the Facebook post about the HPP event. Probably because I don't spend much time on FB. Just a few minutes every morning while dropping a deuce...if I'm not using my phone for some other form of entertainment. Would have to scroll down through 2 hundred "spotted" and TS hate posts to see it.

Would have been nice if someone posted something here as well. Manny would have had a lot more people show up.

**BLK2012GT** · 11-21-2014, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by NAVAG

Dyno Day Sunday will probably be full of 5.0 guys that spent the last several months smearing TS all over facebook.

Anytime you decide to modify your system in order to operate outside of its design parameters there is a probability of failure. I have no opinion because I haven't done business with them. But I know a couple of people who have and they haven't had any bad experiences. Plus I'm not exactly pushing the envelope with the few minor bolt-ons that I have so the probability of blowing my shit up would not be as high as most people. But that's the risk I take by strapping it to a dyno in the first place.

I'd go just to look at cars, meet people, and donate a toy for a good cause if I didn't already have plans. I was planning on going when I heard about it a couple of weeks ago because it was supposed to be on Saturday but was moved because of the weather.

Well on your second paragraph I agree to a point. I understand that when you go beyond the boundaries of a engine then yes shit will fuck up. But when you pay A LOT of money to a shop that supposedly said these parts can handle it and they can install everything correctly and tune it correctly and blew up engines after engines. You can only blame yourself so much until you point your fingers at the shop you are paying.

**Grandpa** · 11-21-2014, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Well on your second paragraph I agree to a point. I understand that when you go beyond the boundaries of a engine then yes shit will fuck up. But when you pay A LOT of money to a shop that supposedly said these parts can handle it and they can install everything correctly and tune it correctly and blew up engines after engines. You can only blame yourself so much until you point your fingers at the shop you are paying.

Your CD is skipping again...

**62nalide** · 11-21-2014, 07:31 PM

Damn this is the 4th forum I see hate for TS lol

**Grandpa** · 11-21-2014, 08:25 PM

Originally Posted by 62nalide

Damn this is the 4th forum I see hate for TS lol

Its probably the same people too. Lol. The haters arent affecting anything at TS. They are busier than ever and just moved to an even bigger shop. So all of the nonsense is for nothing.

**NAVAG** · 11-22-2014, 01:38 AM

Old School:

My first mod was flipping the lid of my air cleaner upside down. First work I did on a mustang was helping a friend install a 4 barrel carburetor. All we had was our dads tools, a case of beer and very little direction. We didn't have a performance shop per-say. Couldn't tell how much HP we actually had either.

I had to take a 20 year hiatus from car stuff to raise a family so I'm new to all the performance shop hoopla so I really don't understand all the 'Brand Loyalty' and all the bickering about which shop blows less engines.

I understand that the parts, labor, and engine are super expensive but that's all part of the risk/reward. The one question that I have is this: Do these shops make you sign a waiver or a release before these big jobs that free them from any liability? If not, then why aren't they getting sued when they fuck up?

I, personally, wouldn't take that much of a risk with my car. I know folks that do. I got a co-worker that sinks more money in his corvette than my car is worth and he is tight with almost all the DFW shops but from what I understand from him is that he is taking all the risk whether his shit blows up on the track or on the dyno.

If I'm going to sink 10-20K or more into a project I'd rather put it into a classic. But that's just me.

**STROKD** · 11-23-2014, 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by NAVAG

If I'm going to sink 10-20K or more into a project I'd rather put it into a classic. But that's just me.

Unless you are buying a pile of shit classic, any decent muscle car is going to cost wayyyyyyyyyyyyy over 10-20 k... my dad has a clean road runner with no floor rust and we have been told to paint it correctly is 15-18 grand. thats just paint! Rims suspension brakes motor upgrades interior work yadayada makes it a 50-80 k project in a hurry. New cars are so much easier to go fast in.

**JDMLOL** · 11-23-2014, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by 62nalide

Damn this is the 4th forum I see hate for TS lol

Being a part of this forum has yielded me some good deals, in my opinion, as far as parts and service for my car. Such as LMR, Hypermotive, and AM discounts, group buy's, getting good deals on installs from techs that do side jobs, etc. However, my first and only experience with TS was less than satisfactory. For an establishment that apparently pushed more than 50 MGW shifter installs at the time, they delivered me a car that would not shift into 1st or 2nd gear after driving 1.5 hours and spending well over $500 on the shifter and install. They essentially said sorry and to bring it back another time after they spoke with the manufacturer. After a little google searching I found out that the solution was simply adjusting a set screw for the reverse lockout, something I would figure a shop experienced with the product would know. I ended up tearing out a portion of the console myself and correcting the issue. Took maybe 30 minutes. They made no attempt to compensate me for the frustration.

**BLK2012GT** · 11-23-2014, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

Being a part of this forum has yielded me some good deals, in my opinion, as far as parts and service for my car. Such as LMR, Hypermotive, and AM discounts, group buy's, getting good deals on installs from techs that do side jobs, etc. However, my first and only experience with TS was less than satisfactory. For an establishment that apparently pushed more than 50 MGW shifter installs at the time, they delivered me a car that would not shift into 1st or 2nd gear after driving 1.5 hours and spending well over $500 on the shifter and install. They essentially said sorry and to bring it back another time after they spoke with the manufacturer. After a little google searching I found out that the solution was simply adjusting a set screw for the reverse lockout, something I would figure a shop experienced with the product would know. I ended up tearing out a portion of the console myself and correcting the issue. Took maybe 30 minutes. They made no attempt to compensate me for the frustration.

I remember that I was up there. But yet they're a professional performance shop. Smh