DUI's

[Grandpa]

It's crazy how common DUI's are now. Almost everyone knows someone with a DUI on their record. Obviously the laws aren't stiff enough because there is so many repeat offenders out there.

What's crazy, is that I was watching the news earlier and the Ft.Worth Police Chief was being interviewed about the amount of DUI's his officers racked up in 2012. EIGHTEEN...yes 18..police officers in 2012 alone got DUI's! So he is starting some program to not have a single Ft.Worth police officer to be arrested at all in 2013.

What does that say about our society when police officers are being needed to be looked after for something as brainless as this?

Maybe the Mayans were right. lol.

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by Steve It's crazy how common DUI's are now. Almost everyone knows someone with a DUI on their record. Obviously the laws aren't stiff enough because there is so many repeat offenders out there. What's crazy, is that I was watching the news earlier and the Ft.Worth Police Chief was being interviewed about the amount of DUI's his officers racked up in 2012. EIGHTEEN...yes 18..police officers in 2012 alone got DUI's! So he is starting some program to not have a single Ft.Worth police officer to be arrested at all in 2013. What does that say about our society when police officers are being needed to be looked after for something as brainless as this? Maybe the Mayans were right. lol.

The reason you notice more cops getting busted is because their buddies used to let them go. I don't think are more doing it just more getting arrested then used too.

As for the punshment it isn't that light. Cost a lot of money to make it go away.
It's a money maker for the cities so they really go after it. I know a state trooper that will pull you over at night if you hit the solid white line just so he can check.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by blownaltered The reason you notice more cops getting busted is because their buddies used to let them go. I don't think are more doing it just more getting arrested then used too. As for the punshment it isn't that light. Cost a lot of money to make it go away. It's a money maker for the cities so they really go after it. I know a state trooper that will pull you over at night if you hit the solid white line just so he can check.

As far as im concerned, its not severe enough. The first one should be a huge fine and 30 days in jail. Second one a year and then add a year for every one after that. After someone gets their first one they should be hit over the head HARD to make a lasting impression to make them think twice about doing it again.

Its not that fuckin hard to get - dont drink and drive! If you want to drink have a DD, take a cab/bus or stay home and drink.

[Taxman]

Originally Posted by Steve As far as im concerned, its not severe enough. The first one should be a huge fine and 30 days in jail. Second one a year and then add a year for every one after that. After someone gets their first one they should be hit over the head HARD to make a lasting impression to make them think twice about doing it again. Its not that fuckin hard to get - dont drink and drive! If you want to drink have a DD, take a cab/bus or stay home and drink.

100% agree

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by Steve As far as im concerned, its not severe enough. The first one should be a huge fine and 30 days in jail. Second one a year and then add a year for every one after that. After someone gets their first one they should be hit over the head HARD to make a lasting impression to make them think twice about doing it again. Its not that fuckin hard to get - dont drink and drive! If you want to drink have a DD, take a cab/bus or stay home and drink.

So because you had 3 beers before driving you should lose your job, maybe your house or at least not pay any bills go on unemployment or just suck off the government tit. You go to jail for 30 days and that's what happens. What do you consider a huge fine, should we bankrupt somebody for 3 beers? I think you need to get off your hit horse there pal. Shouldn't the penalty for street racing be just as bad since it kills people also

[03MachMe]

Originally Posted by blownaltered So because you had 3 beers before driving you should lose your job, maybe your house or at least not pay any bills go on unemployment or just suck off the government tit. You go to jail for 30 days and that's what happens. What do you consider a huge fine, should we bankrupt somebody for 3 beers? I think you need to get off your hit horse there pal. Shouldn't the penalty for street racing be just as bad since it kills people also

If your intoxicated after three beers then yes. It might make some people thing twice about doing it if the penalty is more than just a slap on the wrist and some lawyer fees. You wouldn't believe the number of times I will arrest someone for DWI and it will be there third or fourth one. the penalty obviously isn't bad enough when you have people that do it time after time and are still on the road risking peoples lives. Come out next time I work an accident where someone is killed or badly injured because someone had "3" beers and decided it was more important for them to get their car home than not risk the lives of everyone else on the road. and the penalty or street racing is the same as a DWI. Class B misdemeanor with enhancements along the same lines as DWIs...

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by 03MachMe If your intoxicated after three beers then yes. It might make some people thing twice about doing it if the penalty is more than just a slap on the wrist and some lawyer fees. You wouldn't believe the number of times I will arrest someone for DWI and it will be there third or fourth one. the penalty obviously isn't bad enough when you have people that do it time after time and are still on the road risking peoples lives. Come out next time I work an accident where someone is killed or badly injured because someone had "3" beers and decided it was more important for them to get their car home than not risk the lives of everyone else on the road. and the penalty or street racing is the same as a DWI. Class B misdemeanor with enhancements along the same lines as DWIs...

I've never heard of anybody paying $3000 in fees, having to get bailed out of jail and impound pees, not to mention a 30 day suspension on their license for street racing. Let's be real here its not the same punishment.

But I do think they need to change the rules for dwi. But I think Steve is on another planet. 1st offense should not have jail time and if it does should not extend past a week. Higher fine yes but what should that limit be 5k. How about this we charge by what you blow if you blow a .08 your fine and penalty is less than the guy that blows a .18, would that be the fair way. We do every crime like that. If you steal something under $20 dollars you don't pay the same as over $1000.

[03MachMe]

Yep it is a HUGE problem and honestly for every one we catch there are prolly 10 on the road we didn't. That is part of the reason you see it so much is because people do it a few times and don't get caught so they think they never will. Another part of the problem is b people don't realize what a 0.08 blood alcohol concentration feels like. Any decent buzz and you are prolly at or over 0.08. But the biggest problem in my eyesbis the system. You would not believe the amount of paperwork I have to do for a dwi. Then almost everyone of them goes to court so that is another day of my time. I know a lot of officers that do not like doing them so they will not go out and look for them. Now if one falls in their lap they wont just ignore it but they don't like to go out looking for them. Until they change something and dont make us jump through so many hoops to where more officers WANT to find dwi's so more people get caught nothing will change

As far as FWPD goes they have LOTS of problems. Like officers getting caught smoking weed in the patrol car. All professions have their idiots, ours just make the news. I know at my dept we have not had a single officer arrested since I started working there. But the majority of officers that lose their certification is due to something alcohol related

And just to clarify DUI is for minors only and DWI is for anyone over the limit, over 21, or on something other than alcohol

[Phuck Phace]

I agree.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace I agree.

It's hard to believe that you agree coming from you. LOL

[Courtesy Flush]

[merlinmol]

I've never understood why people cannot be responsible and stop drinking an hour or so before they go home and have water and whatnot. I never have a problem and if I'm trashed I always have a place to stay and sleep it off. Maybe I'm just more alert to it because I have known people that have suffered from the aftermath of drunk driving.

[blownaltered]

Life in prison sucks for murder but people do that every day

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by blownaltered Life in prison sucks for murder but people do that every day

Of course, it's human nature to be destructive. But you're taking the conversation off course for the sake of arguing. lol.


There is far less murders than there is DWI arrests and accidents. Perhaps if the penalties were stiffer there would be less drinking and driving. So you kind of helped me make point there. lol.

[Courtesy Flush]

If its illegal, people will do it. No matter the consequences. That's the nature of people.
IMO the laws and punishments are set to accommodate a wide variety of people. Those who abuse drinking and driving obviously will face harsher punishment depending on prior offenses, but what about those that learn from it and change their lifestyle?
EDIT
To be be clear, im speaking on the DWI charges alone and leaving the manslaughter charge alone as i think that's a separate charge altogether anyhow.