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Old 10-20-2013, 02:10 PM   #1
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listen...it took GM 3 yrs to play ball with with the Boss and the GT500 was king off the muscle cars for 4 yrs. Bottom line, this generation is over. Better cars are less than 3 yrs away and the Z/28 cant even be bought until March 2014!!!!!!! I take my hats off to GM for even building the car but its purely for bragging rights since the cars isnt SCCA or Grand AM compatible. Also this car is Not in the same category as the Boss due to the lack of sound deadening and thin glass. This car is closer to a Boss S than LS. Last, GM thinks this car is an engineering marvel. Its nothing but a street legal Camaro GS.R which has been around for yrs! check the specs!
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listen...it took GM 3 yrs to play ball with with the Boss and the GT500 was king off the muscle cars for 4 yrs. Bottom line, this generation is over. Better cars are less than 3 yrs away and the Z/28 cant even be bought until March 2014!!!!!!! I take my hats off to GM for even building the car but its purely for bragging rights since the cars isnt SCCA or Grand AM compatible. Also this car is Not in the same category as the Boss due to the lack of sound deadening and thin glass. This car is closer to a Boss S than LS. Last, GM thinks this car is an engineering marvel. Its nothing but a street legal Camaro GS.R which has been around for yrs! check the specs!
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Also this car is Not in the same category as the Boss due to the lack of sound deadening and thin glass.
Okay, so we've gone from "it's not in the same class because no AC or radio" when you can buy a Z/28 with both, to now it's not in the same class because of thin glass or sound deadening? Are you serious? No one in the Corvette community or any other forum I've been on has ever made this many excuses. C5Zs had thinner glass for windshields when comparing them to Porsche turbos, Ferrari 360s etc. No one in those forums complains about pricing either. If the car performs, it performs.

What's the next excuse? Oh, GM uses a different paint code, so it's not in the same category? Disregard all of the blatant similarities and the fact that both cars are built for the track, if the car doesn't give you a BJ then it's not in the same category.

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I respected your post up until this

Okay, so we've gone from "it's not in the same class because no AC or radio" when you can buy a Z/28 with both, to now it's not in the same class because of thin glass or sound deadening? Are you serious? No one in the Corvette community or any other forum I've been on has ever made this many excuses. C5Zs had thinner glass for windshields when comparing them to Porsche turbos, Ferrari 360s etc. No one in those forums complains about pricing either. If the car performs, it performs.

What's the next excuse? Oh, GM uses a different paint code, so it's not in the same category? Disregard all of the blatant similarities and the fact that both cars are built for the track, if the car doesn't give you a BJ then it's not in the same category.



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The Boss LS is street car that can be raced on the track. The Z/28 is track car that can be licensed on the street. They are truly 2 different classes of car. That's just my opinion.

So now lets look at some factual stuff rather than a bunch of opinions. Grab a Boss 302 S (or BOSS 302 R) and put it side by side with the Z/28. They have the same options. See for yourself. The only difference is a roll cage. Again, the Z/28 is nothing but a street legal GS.R with optional AC and a little bit of interior. So I'm impressed by the official lap times of the Z/28, but I'm also not surprised since I see this caliber of car race on Fox Sports once a month.

And again this generation is over! No one is going to challenge GM and this car simply because they have moved on. GM better start working on that Alpha platform rather than building special edition track cars at the end of it's generation.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/compe...osscompare.asp

Bottom line, the car is a beast but I'm not impressed because I've already seen what a stripped down version of the car could do. That's my spill on this subject. I'm moving on because December is real close!!!!

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Old 10-21-2013, 12:08 PM   #4
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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
The Boss LS is street car that can be raced on the track. The Z/28 is track car that can be licensed on the street. They are truly 2 different classes of car. That's just my opinion.

So now lets look at some factual stuff rather than a bunch of opinions. Grab a Boss 302 S (or BOSS 302 R) and put it side by side with the Z/28. They have the same options. See for yourself. The only difference is a roll cage. Again, the Z/28 is nothing but a street legal GS.R with optional AC and a little bit of interior. So I'm impressed by the official lap times of the Z/28, but I'm also not surprised since I see this caliber of car race on Fox Sports once a month.

And again this generation is over! No one is going to challenge GM and this car simply because they have moved on. GM better start working on that Alpha platform rather than building special edition track cars at the end of it's generation.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/compe...osscompare.asp

Bottom line, the car is a beast but I'm not impressed because I've already seen what a stripped down version of the car could do. That's my spill on this subject. I'm moving on because December is real close!!!!
Good post. I believe the new mustang is gonna be a force to be reckoned with.
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Originally Posted by saunupe1911 View Post
The Boss LS is street car that can be raced on the track. The Z/28 is track car that can be licensed on the street. They are truly 2 different classes of car. That's just my opinion.

So now lets look at some factual stuff rather than a bunch of opinions. Grab a Boss 302 S (or BOSS 302 R) and put it side by side with the Z/28. They have the same options. See for yourself. The only difference is a roll cage. Again, the Z/28 is nothing but a street legal GS.R with optional AC and a little bit of interior. So I'm impressed by the official lap times of the Z/28, but I'm also not surprised since I see this caliber of car race on Fox Sports once a month.

And again this generation is over! No one is going to challenge GM and this car simply because they have moved on. GM better start working on that Alpha platform rather than building special edition track cars at the end of it's generation.

http://www.fordracingparts.com/compe...osscompare.asp

Bottom line, the car is a beast but I'm not impressed because I've already seen what a stripped down version of the car could do. That's my spill on this subject. I'm moving on because December is real close!!!!
Track cars, don't meet the same safety standards as street cars.
Track cars can't be registered to be driven on the street.

The GS.R you are referring to, does it have the same amount of air bags, if any as the Z/28? Does it meet the same crash testing standards as the Z/28?

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