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**DirtyD** · 05-21-2014, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

You can replace the oil with the same oil it left the factory with. You're splitting hairs in your argument. lol.

Stock is stock. The way it leaves the factory. Factory tune and all.

HOLY SHIT STEVE AND I AGREE! lulz

**Junkie** · 05-21-2014, 02:17 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

So exactly like Zeek calling out all Mustangs "650whp and below"?

I've watched Zeek accept call outs in person from much more powerful cars. He doesn't give a shit.

He called out 650rwhp stangs so he would have a good fun race. Its pretty simple

**DirtyD** · 05-21-2014, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

I've personally switched to 0 weight oil and picked up great power. So no I'm not stretching anything.

Car is "factory" anymore once one oil change is done, according to your definition.

But then again, you didn't have to switch to 0W. You could've kept the exact same oil weight and brand that was originally put in the car.

**Grandpa** · 05-21-2014, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

So exactly like Zeek calling out all Mustangs "650whp and below"?

That's just street racing stuff and everything is negotiable. It's clear you don't know Zeek because he will race anything, including the wind if it challenged him. Make no mistake, Zeek will race. lol

Besides, his car only makes 491rw, so a 650 Stang isn't really unreasonable in his request. He just wants to see where he stands against a blown Stang with him on motor.

**DirtyD** · 05-21-2014, 02:19 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

That's just street racing stuff and everything is negotiable. It's clear you don't know Zeek because he will race anything, including the wind if it challenged him. Make no mistake, Zeek will race. lol

Besides, his car only makes 491rw, so a 650 Stang isn't really unreasonable in his request. He just wants to see where he stands against a blown Stang with him on motor.

He's made that clear as of late, but didn't seem that clear when he posted that thread. I was just using that as an example anyways.

**Junkie** · 05-21-2014, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

But then again, you didn't have to switch to 0W. You could've kept the exact same oil weight and brand that was originally put in the car.

lol hilarious. So now you CAN in fact change things from factory as long as its within reason and similar.

Which is EXACTLY what a tune does.

Yet thats not ok.

**Grandpa** · 05-21-2014, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

He's made that clear as of late, but didn't seem that clear when he posted that thread. I was just using that as an example anyways.

I really wouldn't expect you to get it since you're not really a racer at all.

**Dominic Toretto** · 05-21-2014, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

You just said it yourself, that isn't just a cam, but a lot of other things as well. The phrase "cam only" is meant to understate mods for those who are uninformed on what it really means.

Exactly. I am kind of lost on why you seemed confused about the term if you knew what it meant to begin with. But, no need to get into that and sidetrack the thread.

Originally Posted by Junkie

Car is "factory" anymore once one oil change is done, according to your definition.

No... just.... no.

-Alex

**Grandpa** · 05-21-2014, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Exactly. I am kind of lost on why you seemed confused about the term if you knew what it meant to begin with. But, no need to get into that and sidetrack the thread.

It was a comment back to Derek stating that I found it amusing. Don't like it, skip the thread.

**DirtyD** · 05-21-2014, 03:03 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

lol hilarious. So now you CAN in fact change things from factory as long as its within reason and similar.

Which is EXACTLY what a tune does.

Yet thats not ok.

Let me try this again. Oil is a consumable. I obviously don't have to explain to you what no changing your oil will do. Therefore you have to change it. You don't have to change the car's intake, as the stock on works fine. You don't have to change the factory cam. You don't have to delete the cats. The car will still run perfectly fine with all that stuff staying the same. Saying that changing the oil no longer makes the vehicle stock is about as stupid as a KKK member walking into the slums of Oak Cliff and screaming the N word and not expecting to get killed.

I don't see how you can argue that changing the tune to maximize the efficiency and power of the engine is still stock.

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

I really wouldn't expect you to get it since you're not really a racer at all.

Here you go again......asinine comments.....

**Junkie** · 05-21-2014, 03:07 PM

I guess you missed the fact that I wasn't talking about Cam, intake, exhaust, etc...

**Dominic Toretto** · 05-21-2014, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

It was a comment back to Derek stating that I found it amusing.

Oh okay my mistake.

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Don't like it, skip the thread.

That's why I originally stated "If you mean"... meaning I wasn't sure just trying to clarify. Gee fucking whiz.

-Alex

**Grandpa** · 05-21-2014, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Here you go again...........

Why do you find that comment offensive? It's the truth. You're not a racer, certainly not a hardcore racer nor are you very expierenced since you're still pretty new to this hobby. Drop the insecurity. Everyone was new at some point.

**Courtesy Flush** · 05-21-2014, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

But, no need to get into that and sidetrack the thread.

No worries, its already hit that point.

**DirtyD** · 05-21-2014, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Why do you find that comment offensive? It's the truth. You're not a racer, certainly not a hardcore racer nor are you very expierenced since you're still pretty new to this hobby. Drop the insecurity. Everyone was new at some point.

I didn't find it offensive? I just don't see how that comment was a proper response to what I said.

Simply pointing out the fact Zeek makes a thread calling out xxx whp Mustangs to race a couple of weeks ago, then proceeding to say in that same thread he should beat them no problem.