2015 z06

[Dan12GT]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT They won't last NINE minutes. It's amusing that you are referring to a Veyron as a "stock" car too like it's a Kia or something. Haha. It's a handmade built up supercar no different than any other hyper fast super car with the exception it's all built in one place. All the parts from the Veyron are shipped in from all over the world no differently than any other car.

Stock meaning the way it comes from the factory. I swear you LOOK to argue ANYTHING! Anybody would understand the term stock meaning how it comes when you buy it....

Originally Posted by re-rx7 20 min at full speed. In other words they last 20 min at 268. Michelin makes the tire. 16k a set.

Just re-watched the video ya, lol 15 minutes of tire life at that speed. Jebus!

[DirtyD]

Originally Posted by Dan12GT Stock meaning the way it comes from the factory. I swear you LOOK to argue ANYTHING! Anybody would understand the term stock meaning how it comes when you buy it....

You are still comparing two different "levels" of cars though. A stock Veyron is way above a stock Gallardo, etc. Hypercar to supercar. Now comparing the Veyron to the Aero, Agera R, Zonda R, etc. is more of an equal stock comparison.

Originally Posted by Dan12GT Just re-watched the video ya, lol 15 minutes of tire life at that speed. Jebus!

That's traveling to Dallas and back in 15 minutes at that speed. Shit.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Dan12GT Stock meaning the way it comes from the factory. I swear you LOOK to argue ANYTHING! Anybody would understand the term stock meaning how it comes when you buy it....

So by that logic, I could go buy a UGR TTG and it's stock. Gotcha.


Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.

[Dan12GT]

Originally Posted by DirtyD You are still comparing two different "levels" of cars though. A stock Veyron is way above a stock Gallardo, etc. Hypercar to supercar. Now comparing the Veyron to the Aero, Agera R, Zonda R, etc. is more of an equal stock comparison. That's traveling to Dallas and back in 15 minutes at that speed. Shit.

I agree, but my point is Steve is comparing UGR cars to Veyrons and calling it the same level of comparison and then tossing in the idea the Veyron is trash. Which I said isn't an equal comparison in a stock vs stock format because the UGR cars are "hyper cars" due to the aftermarket attention and money involved with them after the fact. Obviously a UGR car would blow the doors off a stock Veyon.

In retrospect the same can be said if you take a v6 mustang and dump endless amounts of money into it to make it faster than a GT. Obviously the "lessor" car with tons of money devoted to it will generally be the more powerful car (if that is the end goal; generally speed / performance is a factor of money involved).

All my original point was YES, the UGR cars should be faster and I would expect them to be. I was only stating that I personally would simply just trust the car that is designed to go 250+ from the factory (engineered for this very purpose).

Maybe the UGR cars DO control and handle just as well as the Veyron at that speed, I have no idea. I am simply doubting that. However I am basing my opinion off of what I generally would think to see from a car with 2000hp. It goes fast in a strait line, and gets pretty hard to control the faster you go. (simple logic there).

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT So by that logic, I could go buy a UGR TTG and it's stock. Gotcha. Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.

Unless UGR is some odd form or branch of Lamborghini like Roush is to Ford, UGR cars are not STOCK cars....


You can leave out the insulting people's intelligence part. I never personally attacked you. You just seriously make arguments where there are none to be had.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Dan12GT I agree, but my point is Steve is comparing UGR cars to Veyrons and calling it the same level of comparison and then tossing in the idea the Veyron is trash. Which I said isn't an equal comparison in a stock vs stock format because the UGR cars are "hyper cars" due to the aftermarket attention and money involved with them after the fact. Obviously a UGR car would blow the doors off a stock Veyon. In retrospect the same can be said if you take a v6 mustang and dump endless amounts of money into it to make it faster than a GT. Obviously the "lessor" car with tons of money devoted to it will generally be the more powerful car (if that is the end goal; generally speed / performance is a factor of money involved). All my original point was YES, the UGR cars should be faster and I would expect them to be. I was only stating that I personally would simply just trust the car that is designed to go 250+ from the factory (engineered for this very purpose). Maybe the UGR cars DO control and handle just as well as the Veyron at that speed, I have no idea. I am simply doubting that. However I am basing my opinion off of what I generally would think to see from a car with 2000hp. It goes fast in a strait line, and gets pretty hard to control the faster you go. (simple logic there). Unless UGR is some odd form or branch of Lamborghini like Roush is to Ford, UGR cars are not STOCK cars.... You can leave out the insulting people's intelligence part. I never personally attacked you. You just seriously make arguments where there are none to be had.

Please quote where I stated the Veyron was trash and quote where I personally "attacked" you. Why are you so defensive? It's a discussion. Any time I comment on something where I don't completely agree with your point its an "argument". Lay off the caffeine and relax. Damn. lol

[Dan12GT]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT Please quote where I stated the Veyron was trash and quote where I personally "attacked" you. Why are you so defensive? It's a discussion. Any time I comment on something where I don't completely agree with your point its an "argument". Lay off the caffeine and relax. Damn. lol

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

^^ What is this supposed to insinuate exactly?

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT The Veyron is so inefficient as a mechanical thing it's ridiculous. Sure, it's a cool handmade car, but it's not the end all be all of big MPH cars. Not by any stretch of the imagination.

With the level of how much you talked up the UGR cars and then add this statement to the end of of it maybe its not direct "trash" talking it but you catch my drift.

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT So by that logic, I could go buy a UGR TTG and it's stock. Gotcha. Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are dumber than that.

^^^ This seems like a pretty conniving comment against me personally.

I am done anyway. I never wanted to have to argue about something as simple as my own opinion which it seems I am not entitled to have without a damn debacle. I made a very simple statement and gave my opinion. Good lord...

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by Dan12GT Stock meaning the way it comes from the factory. I swear you LOOK to argue ANYTHING! Anybody would understand the term stock meaning how it comes when you buy it....

Bingo!

You should save your time and effort Dan, once he has an opinion formed, it somehow becomes fact no matter what. The rest of the forum knows what stock means. UGR is not a manufacturer, Roush is not a manufacturer, so on and so forth.

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Bingo! You should save your time and effort Dan, once he has an opinion formed, it somehow becomes fact no matter what. The rest of the forum knows what stock means. UGR is not a manufacturer, Roush is not a manufacturer, so on and so forth. -Alex

You guys completely missed the point and ran off in another direction with it in hopes to make a point that didn't apply. lol

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT You guys completely missed the point and ran off in another direction with it in hopes to make a point that didn't apply. lol

The original point of this thread was the 2015 ZO6. There are more pages about a Bugatti now. Which point doesn't apply lol?

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto The original point of this thread was the 2015 ZO6. There are more pages about a Bugatti now. Which point doesn't apply lol? -Alex

Point taken.



See what I did there?