Any Weight Trainers/Body Builders on Here?

[White_lightning]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto I believe their is some science to the diet/performance ratio. I seriously doubt the same person could operate equally in the gym if his diet was binge drinking 5 days a week versus having a well-balanced nutritious diet. It's not to say that something made you do it, versus something assisting with increased muscle mass building to increase your limits wouldn't you agree? -Alex

diet? i agree 100%.. but there is no clinical proof on most of the suppliments on the market.. there is no regulatory board or standard and none if it is FDA tested/approved. all the " independent studys" are mostly bullshit.

their title says what they are . " Suppliments".. for the most part if you eat a decently balanced diet and maybe throw in some basics like a multi vitamin and glutamine just to add for recovery you should be good..

diet 100% makes a difference.. but like i said.. 99% of the suppliments sold are junk.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by White_lightning 99% of the suppliments sold are junk.

Could you elaborate please? Not sure what supplements you are talking about specifically. Proteins, NOX, energy boosters, stuff for recovery. From what I gather most of those products just take natural ingredients and concentrate them.

I would definitely say I have seen a noticeable increase using protein shakes and notice a greater pump using Nitric Oxide. They aren't placebos.

-Alex

[BLK2012GT]

I workout my right arm drinking arm all the time.

[White_lightning]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Could you elaborate please? Not sure what supplements you are talking about specifically. Proteins, NOX, energy boosters, stuff for recovery. From what I gather most of those products just take natural ingredients and concentrate them. I would definitely say I have seen a noticeable increase using protein shakes and notice a greater pump using Nitric Oxide. They aren't placebos. -Alex

If you ate more protein.. You wouldnt need a shake..

The nox stuff is a vascular constrictor from what i remember.. I might be wrong.. But none of that stuff is fda tested or approved.. Supplement companies are not regulated and can make any claims they want. Im sure aome of it work... But people often expect miracles.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by White_lightning If you ate more protein.. You wouldnt need a shake.. The nox stuff is a vascular constrictor from what i remember.. I might be wrong.. But none of that stuff is fda tested or approved.. Supplement companies are not regulated and can make any claims they want. Im sure aome of it work... But people often expect miracles.

I 100% agree with your post.

The NOX dialates your blood vessels to allow more blood flow. Yes if I ate more I wouldn't need protein shakes but, let's be real. How easy is it to eat a Boston Market half chicken meal while driving compared to drinking a protein shake? Absolutely people expect miracles. I on the other hand just want to get some people's actual claims since the tests are you said and I agree are not proven. It would be very difficult to standardize a test like that.

I have a desk job so I have to rely on protein shakes to supplement what I can't eat throughout the day. I had all sorts of evil eyes on me today trying to conceal Ghenghis Grill in my desk lol.

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by White_lightning 99% of the suppliments sold are junk.

I agree. To add to that 95% of people's diet aren't clean enough to take advantage of them anyways. "Supplements" are just that, a supplement to proper training and clean diet. In cases of creatine, its a chemical your body makes naturally. If you take it for any sustained amount of time, it will throw off your systems balance, your body will quit making it then it throws everything off. Plus, the moment you stop taking it, you lose any sort of benefit from it and can have an adverse reaction.

Want to aid your training? Work hard and eat clean.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by Steve I agree. To add to that 95% of people's diet aren't clean enough to take advantage of them anyways. "Supplements" are just that, a supplement to proper training and clean diet. In cases of creatine, its a chemical your body makes naturally. If you take it for any sustained amount of time, it will throw off your systems balance, your body will quit making it then it throws everything off. Plus, the moment you stop taking it, you lose any sort of benefit from it and can have an adverse reaction. Want to aid your training? Work hard and eat clean.

Is that how you got the sexy body builder body you have?

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Is that how you got the sexy body builder body you have?

Yeah, you're a physical specimen yourself there aren't ya? Anytime you want to come to the gym and workout let me know. I bet you don't make it through the warm up without puking let alone rolling for two hours. This old fat guy would fuckin clown you on the mat.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by Steve Yeah, you're a physical specimen yourself there aren't ya? Anytime you want to come to the gym and workout let me know. I bet you don't make it through the warm up without puking let alone rolling for two hours. This old fat guy would fuckin clown you on the mat.

Hmmmmmm I sure hope you can take me on the mat since you've been doing that shit for how long. And I never said I was in shape. I'm far from it, but I don't preach on what to do either when I don't do it myself. And maybe we need to make a section for this instead of a sticky and get Greg (gray horse) on this site. Someone that knows about physical training and working out.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Hmmmmmm I sure hope you can take me on the mat since you've been doing that shit for how long. And I never said I was in shape. I'm far from it, but I don't preach on what to do either when I don't do it myself. And maybe we need to make a section for this instead of a sticky and get Greg (gray horse) on this site. Someone that knows about physical training and working out.

Contrary to popular belief I haven't always been old and fat. lol.

I'm not preaching bro, just sharing my opinion. I'm back on my training/dieting program. My brother being sick with stage 4 cancer has had a really profound effect on my attitude towards my health and not taking it for granted any longer. Its now my priority over everything else now making some big changes in my life. I've attempted it many times and failed, it just sucks watching my brother wither away in health and spirit is what it took to make these changes happen.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by Blackout My diet has gone to shit...I can never stick to it bc of work I always eat out :/

I had this same issue for awhile. I started making my own lunches for the week. Saves gas on going out to eat during lunch, you know exactly what you're eating, saves money and is healthier. Try it bro

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Hmmmmmm I sure hope you can take me on the mat since you've been doing that shit for how long. And I never said I was in shape. I'm far from it, but I don't preach on what to do either when I don't do it myself. And maybe we need to make a section for this instead of a sticky and get Greg (gray horse) on this site. Someone that knows about physical training and working out.

+1. A section for physical health would be great for everyone.

Originally Posted by Steve I've attempted it many times and failed, it just sucks watching my brother wither away in health and spirit is what it took to make these changes happen.

Can't imagine what you're going through man. Best wishes and prayers to your brother.

-Alex

[White_lightning]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Hmmmmmm I sure hope you can take me on the mat since you've been doing that shit for how long. And I never said I was in shape. I'm far from it, but I don't preach on what to do either when I don't do it myself. And maybe we need to make a section for this instead of a sticky and get Greg (gray horse) on this site. Someone that knows about physical training and working out.

greg is a boss but im willing to bet i have moved more weight than just about anyone on this site...

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by White_lightning greg is a boss but im willing to bet i have moved more weight than just about anyone on this site...

That's because you're Hercules.