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**BLK2012GT** · 07-11-2013, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by Bearded Banger

I will only race Nic ever.

Jeff's build is cool, but IMO the bang for the buck isn't there. Cost too much to pick up so little.

Ok Gary think about it. A D1 pro charger car with a built engine and fuel system is probably around 12-15k and it will make 700 rwhp maybe a little more. I have the exact same money and ill be at 800 rwhp maybe a little more. So do you really think it cost too much for a little pick up?

**BLK2012GT** · 07-11-2013, 01:56 PM

And without the built engine part, the direct port nitrous kit, stand alone fuel cell. I spent maybe 5-6k on parts and labor and I picked up 140 rwhp from when I'm bone stock NA. That's pretty good if you ask me.

**White_lightning** · 07-11-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Ok Gary think about it. A D1 pro charger car with a built engine and fuel system is probably around 12-15k and it will make 700 rwhp maybe a little more. I have the exact same money and ill be at 800 rwhp maybe a little more. So do you really think it cost too much for a little pick up?

the difference is after a few hits and you run out of bottle.. your car is now a 500 rwhp car and the D1 guy still has 700 rwhp .. and built motor 700 rwhp????? jesus that pathetic.. the old push rod ls3 cars are making 800 rwhp on Stock motors with an underspun D1.

**BLK2012GT** · 07-11-2013, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by White_lightning

the difference is after a few hits and you run out of bottle.. your car is now a 500 rwhp car and the D1 guy still has 700 rwhp .. and built motor 700 rwhp????? jesus that pathetic.. the old push rod ls3 cars are making 800 rwhp on Stock motors with an underspun D1.

I was just giving an example of 5.0'a with D1 are making avg. And come on man you are comparing a bigger engine with a little 302. TS just did a boss with a D1 with 15 psi and exhaust and made 770 rwhp.

**White_lightning** · 07-11-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

I was just giving an example of 5.0'a with D1 are making avg. And come on man you are comparing a bigger engine with a little 302. TS just did a boss with a D1 with 15 psi and exhaust and made 770 rwhp.

my car made 760 with timing turned all the way down with the D1 and 13# peak... so clearly the cars can make power... was the boss running a stock motor? if so.. sounds like doing a Blower is the way to go.

**Grandpa** · 07-11-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Ok Gary think about it. A D1 pro charger car with a built engine and fuel system is probably around 12-15k and it will make 700 rwhp maybe a little more. I have the exact same money and ill be at 800 rwhp maybe a little more. So do you really think it cost too much for a little pick up?

Dave made more than 700 on the stock motor with the blower. It also takes a Mustang an additional 150rw or more to make up for the weight/aero difference. If you start going out to pick fights with blown Vettes you're going to get a rude awakening. lol.

When you get tuned for juice, you should race Vic. Very comparable cars mod for mod.

**BLK2012GT** · 07-11-2013, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Dave made more than 700 on the stock motor with the blower. It also takes a Mustang an additional 150rw or more to make up for the weight/aero difference. If you start going out to pick fights with blown Vettes you're going to get a rude awakening. lol.

When you get tuned for juice, you should race Vic. Very comparable cars mod for mod.

I don't think David will make the power you think he will make. I hope I'm wrong and he makes the power but I doubt it. Hmm race Vic. Race against a 900 rwhp car that is lighter. Ummmmm yea about that.

**Grandpa** · 07-11-2013, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

I don't think David will make the power you think he will make. I hope I'm wrong and he makes the power but I doubt it. Hmm race Vic. Race against a 900 rwhp car that is lighter. Ummmmm yea about that.

Huh? I didn't say anything about David. Last I heard he was going back to a stock type blower set up. With the built motor and D1 he could still make good power that will be a fun street car. I'm sure at this point he doesn't care and would just like to have his car back to drive rather than making payments on a car he doesn't get to enjoy at all.

**BLK2012GT** · 07-11-2013, 02:08 PM

And what does it matter when I run out of juice if my car is 500 hp again. If I win the race that's all it matters, right? I just tell the guy to turn up his booooost next time.

**Zeek** · 07-11-2013, 02:10 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

I don't think David will make the power you think he will make. I hope I'm wrong and he makes the power but I doubt it. Hmm race Vic. Race against a 900 rwhp car that is lighter. Ummmmm yea about that.

Vic doesn't make 900 lol. He's low 800s like 820

**Bearded Banger** · 07-11-2013, 02:00 PM

It's just my opinion. And yes I would never pay that much to have a juiced car. Not my style. Your money, your car do whatever you want. I still like it and want a ride. I would never build that.

**Grandpa** · 07-11-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by Bearded Banger

It's just my opinion. And yes I would never pay that much to have a juiced car. Not my style. Your money, your car do whatever you want. I still like it and want a ride. I would never build that.

Agreed x100

In my opinion, the only way juice should be used on a street car is in addition to boost. Cuz like Dave said, when the bottle runs out, it's still a 500rw NA car. Boost is always there.

Now, boost+juice in a street car = bad mofo! (Like Will's V!)

blownaltered · 07-11-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Agreed x100

In my opinion, the only way juice should be used on a street car is in addition to boost. Cuz like Dave said, when the bottle runs out, it's still a 500rw NA car. Boost is always there.

Now, boost+juice in a street car = bad mofo! (Like Will's V!)

I've actually thought about that once I build a motor. Since I'm not running an intercooler it would help keep the IATs down. Just a little 50 or 75 shot would help a lot when running.

Now I know Will runs more spray then that but I'm a sissy and don't want parts flying out of the car.

**Junkie** · 07-11-2013, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

I've actually thought about that once I build a motor. Since I'm not running an intercooler it would help keep the IATs down. Just a little 50 or 75 shot would help a lot when running.

Now I know Will runs more spray then that but I'm a sissy and don't want parts flying out of the car.

Shit. 75 shot is a good plan imo. My blue car had 100 pills in it forever!

**BLK2012GT** · 07-11-2013, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Bearded Banger

It's just my opinion. And yes I would never pay that much to have a juiced car. Not my style. Your money, your car do whatever you want. I still like it and want a ride. I would never build that.

That's why I want to be different. I know not too many people would do this. Everyone wants to go SC, turbo, beeeeeeeewwwwsssstytttt!!!!!!!! It's ghey