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**DirtyD** · 04-21-2014, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by BERT

I can't agree with you. I'll just leave it at that

I'm just stating what I've heard echoed from people, that the Coyote doesn't really see much gain replacing the factory manifolds with shorty or equal length headers. Most people have gone LTs. I don't even think I've heard a single person running shorties on our motors.

Not saying all shorties don't do anything, just these motors.

**DirtyD** · 04-21-2014, 04:01 PM

Brandon makes a pretty good list.

You could replace the deleting the cats with a Boss IM, but to get better gains, find a set of mini CJ cams if you can. Getting full VCT control is going to be a big gain.

You can also just do Boss IM, larger CAI (Steeda, Airraid, JLT, C&L) and then spray a 50-75 shot and still be safe. lol But that's not a permanent solution, just when you have something in the bottle. Doing a lighter driveshaft and clutch will help to reduce the drivetrain loss, essentially giving you back power and TQ to the wheels you had previously been losing.

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-21-2014, 04:51 PM

How much power does the car make now?

-Alex

**GTOphil** · 04-21-2014, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by dominic toretto

how much power does the car make now?

-alex

380

**GTOphil** · 04-21-2014, 05:14 PM

I know everybody is going to say get rid of the cats...but I'm just not willing to do that right now.

When I have the money for a s/c then I'll revisit that, but it'll have to be high-flows for now.

I talked to Jason and got a price for LT with hf cats. Seems like that an cai is my best option to not spend a ton of money, but add some more power and sound for my street/family car since it'll be a while until I can actually add SIGNIFICANT power.

**DirtyD** · 04-21-2014, 05:16 PM

Getting a full 3" mid pipe, whether it be an X or H, might free up a bit of flow that the baffled and restricted stock mid-pipe takes away. Adding a CAI and a decent set of mufflers with a good flow through design might get you close to 400whp.

**Bacadiesel** · 04-21-2014, 06:32 PM

Why do you want to keep cats tho? Mine passed inspection legally with longtubes, boss manifold, exhaust cams , off road x and tune making around 465whp.

**GTOphil** · 04-21-2014, 07:09 PM

Originally Posted by Bacadiesel

Why do you want to keep cats tho? Mine passed inspection legally with longtubes, boss manifold, exhaust cams , off road x and tune making around 465whp.

Legality and hassle. I really don't want to keep having this fight. It's my car.

Places around here do visual inspection, you can get a ticket for it (I don't care if y'all say you never have) and I'm not the kind of person who's going to slip somebody money just to make something pass if it doesn't.

**Grandpa** · 04-21-2014, 07:28 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

Legality and hassle. I really don't want to keep having this fight. It's my car.

Places around here do visual inspection, you can get a ticket for it (I don't care if y'all say you never have) and I'm not the kind of person who's going to slip somebody money just to make something pass if it doesn't.

Im actually with you on this subject. I dont want the hassle either. The problem is that if you do it "legally" its going to be more expensive and that is something we both have to come to terms with. Lol

**GTOphil** · 04-21-2014, 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Im actually with you on this subject. I dont want the hassle either. The problem is that if you do it "legally" its going to be more expensive and that is something we both have to come to terms with. Lol

Well...that's one. HAHA!

I'm going to spend the extra $300 or so for high flow cats, I'm fine with that.

I talked to Jason at Hypermotive and I've decided in a bit to go with some LT's and high flow cats. Then I'll add a JLT cai (not his suggestion, I just like it though I'd love to find a CF one for sale) and put them both on and get it tuned.

I know it might not be far over 400 and, yeah, I guess there's a chance it still doesn't but I'd like to think that with LTs, high flow catted h (x if I have to), CAI and a tune that it'd run with my old GTO.

That's really my goal. To get the car where I can enjoy the sound and extra power and not be slower than my old GTO for years until I can afford the TVS kit.

**Bacadiesel** · 04-21-2014, 07:22 PM

I didn't pay someone illegally to pass my car. I went to the nearest car inspection place and told them I need an inspection. It passed 20 min later. $39.75

**BERT** · 04-22-2014, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Bacadiesel

I didn't pay someone illegally to pass my car. I went to the nearest car inspection place and told them I need an inspection. It passed 20 min later. $39.75

GOOD LORD!!!!!!

Think i'll just keep my ass in the sticks where it's still $14.50

**Grandpa** · 04-22-2014, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by BERT

GOOD LORD!!!!!!

Think i'll just keep my ass in the sticks where it's still $14.50

LOL, but it costs you $60 bucks to go or anywhere that doesn't have cowtipping for entertainment.

**BERT** · 04-22-2014, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

LOL, but it costs you $60 bucks to go or anywhere that doesn't have cowtipping for entertainment.

You just need to come over here one weekend and let me prove you wrong on that. But you probably wouldn't have fun since you don't know how to

**Grandpa** · 04-22-2014, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by BERT

You just need to come over here one weekend and let me prove you wrong on that. But you probably wouldn't have fun since you don't know how to

Sorry Cowboy, but there isn't anything outside of North Dallas worth seeing.