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**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

Its not 40 k. Its 34 loaded. R's have no options besides how many doors you want. 4 doors only at launch, hopefully the 2 door comes around next summer. They are the same length, but the 2 door looks sportier to me and is about 50 lbs lighter.

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-08-2014, 03:13 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

Making a huge assumption. Not everyone has terrible credit. The car itself is one price. That's the question. Your arguement is like including maintenance as the actual price to buy the car.

-Alex

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Making a huge assumption. Not everyone has terrible credit. The car itself is one price. That's the question. Your arguement is like including maintenance as the actual price to buy the car.

-Alex

I disagree. Unless you pay cash, those will be factors involved in the cost of the car when you sign the papers for the car. It's simple math.

**DirtyD** · 04-08-2014, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

I only come up with about $37k after TT&L.

You don't include financing, IMO, since not everyone finances.

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

I only come up with about $37k after TT&L.

You don't include financing, IMO, since not everyone finances.

Most people finance, it's a reasonable assumption. Matt would definitely finance it since he doesn't care about the bottom line. All he cares about is the monthly payment.

**STROKD** · 04-08-2014, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

After financing, taxes and interest, it's a $40k car. I know the bottom line isn't your strong suit, but you have to be real here. lol

Everything financed has a bottom line. When my house is paid for itll cost me over 350 grand. Is it a 350 k house? No its a gd 200 k house. Same goes for cars and everything in life that isnt paid cash for. Same thing can also be said for a new Mustang etc, you cant add that and taxes in to the total because its just part of the deal. I mean you can but its not comparing apples. I personally think this car is worth 34 k. A new Mustang not so much.

**Grandpa** · 04-08-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

Everything financed has a bottom line. When my house is paid for itll cost me over 350 grand. Is it a 350 k house? No its a gd 200 k house. Same goes for cars and everything in life that isnt paid cash for. Same thing can also be said for a new Mustang etc, you cant add that and taxes in to the total because its just part of the deal. I mean you can but its not comparing apples. I personally think this car is worth 34 k. A new Mustang not so much.

The market maybe 200k, but if you pay 350k for the house, then that is what it cost you. Same for the car. If the car is 34k, but it costs you $40k due to everything added on to it, then it cost you 40k. If you have to finance the car, it's no longer 34k. You wouldn't be able to leave the dealership with it without the added expenses to the car unless you pay cash. It's pretty black and white.

**donutninja** · 04-08-2014, 02:34 PM

I love that hot hatches are finally making a comeback. They can be really fun to drive, usually get great gas mileage, and are somewhat functional. I want to go play around in one.

re-rx7 · 04-08-2014, 03:42 PM

Ford is bring the RS over next year. Will have the 4cyl mustang engine. Ruh ROh.

**Courtesy Flush** · 04-08-2014, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Ford is bring the RS over next year. Will have the 4cyl mustang engine. Ruh ROh.

I read they ruled out AWD for the RS and in spite of that, id buy a golf r.

re-rx7 · 04-08-2014, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

I read they ruled out AWD for the RS and in spite of that, id buy a golf r.

Have you ever owned a AWD car?

**Courtesy Flush** · 04-08-2014, 05:33 PM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Have you ever owned a AWD car?

Yes, B5 S4.

traded an MS3 for the mustang in 2011.

re-rx7 · 04-08-2014, 05:35 PM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

Yes, B5 S4.

traded an MS3 for the mustang in 2011.

THe weight will be down is the reasoning behind staying FWD. The car will also have LSD.

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-09-2014, 11:34 AM

Steve, cost and what-you-pay are not the same. Simple as that. If I walk into a service station, take a $1.00 bottle of water to the counter, give the cashier a $5.00 and walk out without change, the price of the water is still $1.00 regardless of what I paid for it. Sheesh.

-Alex

**Grandpa** · 04-09-2014, 12:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Steve, cost and what-you-pay are not the same. Simple as that. If I walk into a service station, take a $1.00 bottle of water to the counter, give the cashier a $5.00 and walk out without change, the price of the water is still $1.00 regardless of what I paid for it. Sheesh.

-Alex

Ok, well go into the dealership and tell them all you will pay is what is on the sticker and try to drive off the lot with it. Let's see how that works out for ya. lol