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**BLK2012GT** · 02-01-2013, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by Bearded Banger

I love you Midnight11

Me too.

**DirtyD** · 02-01-2013, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

or AED competing with dyno tunes. I'd say both cars are pretty even.

Yes, either way. I'm sure that AED's tunes aren't far off from his email tunes since he still uses datalogging on both to work out any quirks. Just doesn't have the car in front of him. But I think it still shows Sean is a great tuner as well.

**OG Fox** · 02-01-2013, 05:47 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Yes, either way. I'm sure that AED's tunes aren't far off from his email tunes since he still uses datalogging on both to work out any quirks. Just doesn't have the car in front of him. But I think it still shows Sean is a great tuner as well.

no offense to sean but they don't know how to tune procharged cars.

**Courtesy Flush** · 02-01-2013, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

no offense to sean but they don't know how to tune procharged cars.

Which Sean?

**DirtyD** · 02-01-2013, 06:05 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

no offense to sean but they don't know how to tune procharged cars.

Did David's not come out good?

**OG Fox** · 02-01-2013, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

Which Sean?

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Did David's not come out good?

sean @ true street, not to be confused with shaun @aed.

and no, they have had problems with both procharged cars. Sayle went to dallas mustang to get tuned after install.

I love true street and I Think they are great, i just wouldnt get tuned if you have forced induction. NA cars are fine.

**TrueStreetTim** · 02-01-2013, 07:45 PM

Awesome job on the vids. This will greatly increase the forums reputation!

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

sean @ true street, not to be confused with shaun @aed.

and no, they have had problems with both procharged cars. Sayle went to dallas mustang to get tuned after install.

I love true street and I Think they are great, i just wouldnt get tuned if you have forced induction. NA cars are fine.

I ain't mad, bro lol. But wildly debatable.

Before proper MAF's came about for tuning these cars beyond a certain sample area, tuners would "trick" the computer to do what they commanded. It was simply the way of things. Now that tuners have access to proper MAF's, we choose to tune through the MAF (no smoke & mirrors). David has gone this route and we hoped that Sayle would as well. Davids had nothing to do with tuning.

Sayle was advised to go with a MAF that better supported his cars needs. But everyone makes their own choices given what information they are given. Sayle chose to go a route that does not involve a MAF change and purchased injectors through DM when, in fact, the car is still out of MAF. We tune FI cars that far exceed 600wp day in and day out. Our tuning capabilities are not to be confused with a customers free choice.

Not to detract anything from Sayle! He's a stand up dude, we go drinking together, and was even at the shop today! He made the decision he felt most comfortable with given the information and this has affected our relationship none whatsoever!

**OG Fox** · 02-01-2013, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim

Wildly debatable.

I guess, you guys are stand up shop. I have recommended all my friends to come see ya'll. I am only calling it as i see it.

**TrueStreetTim** · 02-01-2013, 08:16 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

I guess, you guys are stand up shop. I have recommended all my friends to come see ya'll. I am only calling it as i see it.

Absolutely! There will always be preferences in anything and everything. But folks need facts to aid in their opinions/decision. And that's what we're here for. I will always offer the truth. But...the decision is ultimately in the customer/purchasers hands....and everyone will have their preference.

**TrueStreetMotorSports.com** · 02-01-2013, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

sean @ true street, not to be confused with shaun @aed.

and no, they have had problems with both procharged cars. Sayle went to dallas mustang to get tuned after install.

I love true street and I Think they are great, i just wouldnt get tuned if you have forced induction. NA cars are fine.

We put a base tune in Sayle car and stated with full throttle pulls (45 mins total time before we ran out of maf). His car ran out of MAF and was advised at that time what was need to correct the problem so we could continue the tune. He decided to go another way and there is no hard feelings. He was told at Dallas mustangs he was out of MAF there too....

Also Keep in mind we have 4 pro-charged cars here and 3 twin turbo cars right now for tuning. So to say we don't do forced inductions is just silly to say......

please have facts correct before saying what our capabilities are...... but glad you like us

**OG Fox** · 02-01-2013, 08:29 PM

Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com

We put a base tune in Sayle car and stated with full throttle pulls (45 mins total time before we ran out of maf). His car ran out of MAF and was advised at that time what was need to correct the problem so we could continue the tune. He decided to go another way and there is no hard feelings. He was told at Dallas mustangs he was out of MAF there too....

Also Keep in mind we have 4 pro-charged cars here and 3 twin turbo cars right now for tuning. So to say we don't do forced inductions is just silly to say......

please have facts correct before saying what our capabilities are...... but glad you like us

oh ok, i was told differently by sayle that dallas mustang could tune with his oem MAF, i also was told that procharger instructed him to get a second opinion because their kit doesn't require it.

**TrueStreetTim** · 02-01-2013, 08:46 PM

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

oh ok, i was told differently by sayle that dallas mustang could tune with his oem MAF, i also was told that procharger instructed him to get a second opinion because their kit doesn't require it.

Yes, DM can tune using the oem MAF same as us. But it's not what we consider to be the right way now that MAF's are available and carry the proper data. I believe the MAF's are good through 1,000+wp. It's an awesome addition outside of necessity.

Prochargers kit doesn't require a MAF if....if the car does not exceed roughly 550wp. But just like David's, the kit's making more. Especially after bolt-on's. lol

**TrueStreetMotorSports.com** · 02-01-2013, 08:54 PM

[QUOTE=Blue Devil 5.0;17955]oh ok, i was told differently by sayle that dallas mustang could tune with his oem MAF, i also was told that procharger instructed him to get a second opinion because their kit doesn't require it.[/

We could do the same "trick" and sayle was explained this in a 20min conversation. Sayle understood that we as a shop disagreed with this trick and he did not want to purchase the new maf so he went to another tuner.....

**OG Fox** · 02-02-2013, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim

Yes, DM can tune using the oem MAF same as us. But it's not what we consider to be the right way now that MAF's are available and carry the proper data. I believe the MAF's are good through 1,000+wp. It's an awesome addition outside of necessity.

Prochargers kit doesn't require a MAF if....if the car does not exceed roughly 550wp. But just like David's, the kit's making more. Especially after bolt-on's. lol

[QUOTE=TrueStreetMotorSports.com;17957]

Originally Posted by Blue Devil 5.0

oh ok, i was told differently by sayle that dallas mustang could tune with his oem MAF, i also was told that procharger instructed him to get a second opinion because their kit doesn't require it.[/

We could do the same "trick" and sayle was explained this in a 20min conversation. Sayle understood that we as a shop disagreed with this trick and he did not want to purchase the new maf so he went to another tuner.....

I appreciate you guys clearing this up and hope you don't think I was trying to bad mouth you guys. I am glad you guys took the time to explain everything to me.

**BLK2012GT** · 02-02-2013, 04:03 PM

[QUOTE=Blue Devil 5.0;17999]

Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com

I appreciate you guys clearing this up and hope you don't think I was trying to bad mouth you guys. I am glad you guys took the time to explain everything to me.

Fucking Dale. Lol