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**thelandshark** · 08-09-2013, 02:05 PM

I think ur tune was a Lil weak jay is a good racer don't get me wrong but I don't see that intake killing u that much k&n makes very good parts maybe get a new tune and retry are have jay load his race tune an see what happens

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-09-2013, 02:07 PM

Derek, my car is a 14' thank you very much :-) lol. Had to say it. Second.. great runs again. Wasn't much of a differences but after looking at your intake design I personally don't like it. I choose steeda because I called bama and asked them what they made/seen more power out of, steeda or the jlt. They told me their stock 13' dynoed 370hp after steeda and bama tune it dynoed 408hp with jlt and bama tune it dynoed 403 so really no difference. Could of simply been IAT were hotter. So I personally would run either or over the k&n. Also I've never heard of JPC Racing so I can't really say anything about their tunes. Just don't see ppl tunning them. I have been extreamly pleased withy bama tune(performance, only ran race on the track) and would support them in an argument(to a point bahhhaa)

**DirtyD** · 08-09-2013, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by thelandshark

I think ur tune was a Lil weak jay is a good racer don't get me wrong but I don't see that intake killing u that much k&n makes very good parts maybe get a new tune and retry are have jay load his race tune an see what happens

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

Derek, my car is a 14' thank you very much :-) lol. Had to say it. Second.. great runs again. Wasn't much of a differences but after looking at your intake design I personally don't like it. I choose steeda because I called bama and asked them what they made/seen more power out of, steeda or the jlt. They told me their stock 13' dynoed 370hp after steeda and bama tune it dynoed 408hp with jlt and bama tune it dynoed 403 so really no difference. Could of simply been IAT were hotter. So I personally would run either or over the k&n. Also I've never heard of JPC Racing so I can't really say anything about their tunes. Just don't see ppl tunning them. I have been extreamly pleased withy bama tune(performance, only ran race on the track) and would support them in an argument(to a point bahhhaa)

Haha. I'm stupid. Haha.

Those dynos were in STD I'm sure, so SAE would've shown less of a gain, so it was just a marketing scheme to inflate numbers a little more.

JPC is kind of a East coast equivalent to AED. JPC are well known in the community, and have some of the fastest Coyotes being races at the strip.

As for the K&N design, since I have the same size area around the MAF location, I don't think I'm getting an advantage with more air like you are with the larger tube, which again is back to the "no tune required" ordeal.

I really think had I not missed 5th on the first run, that would've been a damn close one.

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-09-2013, 03:13 PM

It was a damn close run. I was asking thelandshark who I work with after he saw the video I was wondering why that first run we were neck and neck and the others I pulled. Didn't make sense. Also towards the end of the video there's a run where you pulled than I pulled it back in. a lot of unanswered questions but thats what we get for racing on the streets with no slips to see what we did.

**DirtyD** · 08-09-2013, 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

It was a damn close run. I was asking thelandshark who I work with after he saw the video I was wondering why that first run we were neck and neck and the others I pulled. Didn't make sense. Also towards the end of the video there's a run where you pulled than I pulled it back in. a lot of unanswered questions but thats what we get for racing on the streets with no slips to see what we did.

Yeah, that's why I'm puzzled. It may have been the temp, it may not have been. Who knows. I think getting another matchup in when it's cooler may tell a little better story.

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-09-2013, 04:08 PM

Sounds great

**Rebelracer568** · 08-09-2013, 04:31 PM

I watched the videos. I notice in videos your car pulls then like hits wall and jay pulls away. I would look into your tune. I know jpc has some of baddest na coyotes around.

**DirtyD** · 08-09-2013, 04:37 PM

Originally Posted by Rebelracer568

I watched the videos. I notice in videos your car pulls then like hits wall and jay pulls away. I would look into your tune. I know jpc has some of baddest na coyotes around.

I don't think it's my shifting. I was having clean shifts except for the lockouts in 5th and 3rd.

The issues are definitely occuring in the higher RPM. That is why I think my timing may be the culprit.

**Rebelracer568** · 08-09-2013, 04:59 PM

Yea your shifts looked good in the video. I would call jpc and see if they can send you a updated tune. I have some bama tunes I can send you. There for a c&l cai intake if you possibly wanna try it

**DirtyD** · 08-09-2013, 05:09 PM

Tune will be too rich since it's for a larger intake, and also won't be for my car since they are computer/ecu matched.

I'm going to get with JPC when they get back in the office next week. I don't have a laptop to log my current tune though, so that doesn't help.

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-09-2013, 06:40 PM

Derek, I used fords IDS and while I drove thelandshark monitored and recorded my a/f (my performance tune) at idle was 14.2-14.3 under wide open throttle it was 12.29 so I'm running rich on top end.. better rich than lean I always say

**DirtyD** · 08-10-2013, 12:09 AM

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

Derek, I used fords IDS and while I drove thelandshark monitored and recorded my a/f (my performance tune) at idle was 14.2-14.3 under wide open throttle it was 12.29 so I'm running rich on top end.. better rich than lean I always say

Can you check timing with that as well?