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**KungFuHamster** · 08-19-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by Junkie

Doing a small burn out is good regardless, just to at least clean the tire off. Also depending on pressure it is good to lower pressure even on street radials. Lots of us have done a lot of testing with Invos, which are recommended to be at 35+psi but at the track we all do much better with 20-22 in them

I agree a quick spin of the tires is good to knock the rocks off or any accidental moisture the tires may have picked up going around the waterbox. I usually just do a quick spin.

While my times are embarrassing, I can't believe how consistent I/my car was...especially running on street tires with a stickshift. .005 difference between my two passes? that's insane.

113 mph...I should be in the low 12s/high 11's. Oh well. I'll leave the ET on the track and save my tranny. Though I have my answer to my other thread. Screw a blower, I am going to start looking at a magnum swap. What good is 200 extra hp if I run 12's at 125 +mph? That's just foolish.

One thing is for sure. The AUTO is the way to go fast in these cars.

**Grandpa** · 08-19-2013, 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Most modern tires recommend 35-45psi for fuel economy and there is NO WAY you're going to be able to hook up on a rock hard 40-series tire with ~400hp and a stick. There is a difference between "take some air out" and "take it down to the air pressure you run in a slick." Most of these guys would get a better launch at ~25psi than they will at 40.

*edit, treed by junkie

The idea is to remove the air pressure enough to make as much of the tire as possible contact the pavement. The compound of the tire with how soft/hard it is will create the traction with heat from the burnout. I'm with you there on all of that.

A tire like an Invo that is a real performance tire being a softer compound will benefit from a good burnout. Also, being an aftermarket tire is most likely a larger tire as well. I can definitely see what you are saying applying to that.

I just don't see it applying as well to someone on a stock 235 Pirelli that is a harder compound designed for all seasons and the side wall is not meant to give at all.

I also agree with you that some people let out way too much air on a street radial thinking they are getting the same effect as they would on a slick. The same could be said for a overly inflated tire.

Originally Posted by KungFuHamster

I agree a quick spin of the tires is good to knock the rocks off or any accidental moisture the tires may have picked up going around the waterbox. I usually just do a quick spin.

While my times are embarrassing, I can't believe how consistent I/my car was...especially running on street tires with a stickshift. .005 difference between my two passes? that's insane.

113 mph...I should be in the low 12s/high 11's. Oh well. I'll leave the ET on the track and save my tranny. Though I have my answer to my other thread. Screw a blower, I am going to start looking at a magnum swap. What good is 200 extra hp if I run 12's at 125 +mph? That's just foolish.

One thing is for sure. The AUTO is the way to go fast in these cars.

The auto are definitely much easier to make faster. I agree they are way to go if someone is planning on tracking the car often. But my car is mainly a street car and I still prefer to row gears on the street. Gives more of the drivers experience feeling connected to the car.

**Toby** · 08-19-2013, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by KungFuHamster

I agree a quick spin of the tires is good to knock the rocks off or any accidental moisture the tires may have picked up going around the waterbox. I usually just do a quick spin.

While my times are embarrassing, I can't believe how consistent I/my car was...especially running on street tires with a stickshift. .005 difference between my two passes? that's insane.

113 mph...I should be in the low 12s/high 11's. Oh well. I'll leave the ET on the track and save my tranny. Though I have my answer to my other thread. Screw a blower, I am going to start looking at a magnum swap. What good is 200 extra hp if I run 12's at 125 +mph? That's just foolish.

One thing is for sure. The AUTO is the way to go fast in these cars.

We had a boss out there running 10.50's at 133 mph using the stock 6 speed.. Car has a d-1, fuel system to support, headers, and some control arms. Other wise bone stock suspension with full interior and nothing taken out.

**wbt** · 08-19-2013, 02:26 PM

Originally Posted by Toby

We had a boss out there running 10.50's at 133 mph using the stock 6 speed.. Car has a d-1, fuel system to support, headers, and some control arms. Other wise bone stock suspension with full interior and nothing taken out.

It would have run better times with an auto.

**BLK2012GT** · 08-19-2013, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by wbt

It would have run better times with an auto.

Not everyone wants to just push down the peddle and go and try to set records. I like shifting through the gears. It's a lot more fun.

**wbt** · 08-19-2013, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Not everyone wants to just push down the peddle and go and try to set records. I like shifting through the gears. It's a lot more fun.

I own one of each. I'll take an auto over a stick anyday at the track.

I find it hilarious you M6 guys saying it takes a "man" to drive a stick, etc. when they have no clue what it takes to make an auto work to where all it takes is just mashing the gas.

When you are laying parts across the track creating a mess for the crew to cleanup and causing delays, come talk to me again about how much better that manual trans car is.

You do have an upgraded driveline with all the necessary support to withstand 6K RPM launches on slicks right?

**Luke** · 08-19-2013, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by wbt

I own one of each. I'll take an auto over a stick anyday at the track.

I find it hilarious you M6 guys saying it takes a "man" to drive a stick, etc. when they have no clue what it takes to make an auto work to where all it takes is just mashing the gas.

When you are laying parts across the track creating a mess for the crew to cleanup and causing delays, come talk to me again about how much better that manual trans car is.

You do have an upgraded driveline with all the necessary support to withstand 6K RPM launches on slicks right?

blownaltered · 08-19-2013, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by wbt

I own one of each. I'll take an auto over a stick anyday at the track.

I find it hilarious you M6 guys saying it takes a "man" to drive a stick, etc. when they have no clue what it takes to make an auto work to where all it takes is just mashing the gas.

When you are laying parts across the track creating a mess for the crew to cleanup and causing delays, come talk to me again about how much better that manual trans car is.

You do have an upgraded driveline with all the necessary support to withstand 6K RPM launches on slicks right?

I think your missing the point of what most people are saying. You can't compare times between a m6 vs an auto with a stall. The auto is going to eat the m6 out of the hole and hit the shift perfect every time because its computer controlled. No human error involved. But he and a lot of other guys, myself included like sticks for our sports cars because they are more fun to drive on the street. If I was going to race my car every weekend then yes I would do an auto but I don't so ill stick to my old 5 speed.

**BLK2012GT** · 08-19-2013, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

I think your missing the point of what most people are saying. You can't compare times between a m6 vs an auto with a stall. The auto is going to eat the m6 out of the hole and hit the shift perfect every time because its computer controlled. No human error involved. But he and a lot of other guys, myself included like sticks for our sports cars because they are more fun to drive on the street. If I was going to race my car every weekend then yes I would do an auto but I don't so ill stick to my old 5 speed.

X2 exactly was never saying a manual is better for the track then an auto. WBT man you might want to read a post twice before you post cause just because some thinks differently doesn't mean they are insulting you or better then you.

**46Tbird** · 08-19-2013, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by wbt

I own one of each. I'll take an auto over a stick anyday at the track.

Totally agree. And the potential in the new 6As is astounding. But I do more than drag race my car, and I would be way too bored with a slushbox in my daily commute.

I didn't realize you still have your M6 car. Do you ever do anything with it anymore?

**wbt** · 08-19-2013, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Totally agree. And the potential in the new 6As is astounding. But I do more than drag race my car, and I would be way too bored with a slushbox in my daily commute.

I didn't realize you still have your M6 car. Do you ever do anything with it anymore?

I traded that in on my auto. My wife's 2013 is a MT-82 car. That is what she wanted and she prefers a stick over an auto.